Tutorial Seraphon List for Battletome 2.o

[Lizerd]

Carnosaurs for @Lizerd

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Mortal Realm: Ulgu
- Coalesced
-Koatl's Claw

Leaders:
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (250)
- General
- Command Trait: Dominate Predator
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (210)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (210)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (210)
- War Spear
Skink Starseer (140)
- Spell: Bind Spell
Skink Starpriest (120)
- Spell: Hand of Glory

Battleline:
15 x Saurus Knights (240)
- Lances
10 x Saurus Knights (160)
- Blades
10 x Saurus Knights (160)
- Blades

Battalions
Firelance Starhost (160)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 127

The ScV on Carnosaur with Sword of Jugement can reach +2 to hit very consistently. This means SoJ will trigger on 4+'s!

It’s beautiful! Thank you thank you thanks you thank you

 

[Lord Skal'terakk]

I have a dream. Would it be possible for you to make a list hard on Saurus and Kroxigors that could be viable? Ever since I started playing AoS this has always been my top fantasy, the climax of my vision of the perfect melee combat heavy Seraphon list. You have given me and many more probably hundreds of lists, and even though I always feel bad asking for another one, I couldn't resist doing so here. You are an admirable person, I would understand if it didn't happen, looking forward for the 6 Kroxigors Thunder Lizard list anyway!
Thank you so much for everything, you are awesome!!!

 

[LizardWizard]

I have a dream. Would it be possible for you to make a list hard on Saurus and Kroxigors that could be viable? Ever since I started playing AoS this has always been my top fantasy, the climax of my vision of the perfect melee combat heavy Seraphon list. You have given me and many more probably hundreds of lists, and even though I always feel bad asking for another one, I couldn't resist doing so here. You are an admirable person, I would understand if it didn't happen, looking forward for the 6 Kroxigors Thunder Lizard list anyway!
Thank you so much for everything, you are awesome!!!

Yeah, I have a couple other things I need to get around to first. I will try to make one in the next couple of days if I can't find time today. Do you like all Saurus or are you particular to Guard, Knights, or Warriors? You will also want at least one unit with the Skink Keyword for the Krox buff. Are you okay with Salamanders? And how do you feel about the Starseer and other Skink Heroes?

 

[Lord Skal'terakk]

Yeah, I have a couple other things I need to get around to first. I will try to make one in the next couple of days if I can't find time today. Do you like all Saurus or are you particular to Guard, Knights, or Warriors? You will also want at least one unit with the Skink Keyword for the Krox buff. Are you okay with Salamanders? And how do you feel about the Starseer and other Skink Heroes?

If you really do it I swear I will convert an altar of you with my pyramid terrain. I'm a fan of all types of Saurus, but not of knight-heavy lists and really fond of warriors! And I'm absolutely fine with anything you put in there! A Carnosaur is always magnificent to see, and all Skinks, salamanders, anything! If I have warriors and kroxis fighting together I'll be the happiest Saurus in Lustria
Thank you for everything you do!!

 

[LizardWizard]

Found some freetime. Here is a Saurus and Kroxigor list. Hope you like it @Lord Skal'terakk

Allegiance: Seraphon
-Mortal Realm: Hysh
- Coalesced
-Koatl's Claw


Leaders:
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (250)
- General
- Command Trait: Dominate Predator
- Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
Skink Starseer (140)
- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch
- Spell: Hand of Glory
Skink Starpriest (120)
- Spell: Tide of Serpents

Battleline:
40 x Saurus Warriors (320)
- Spears
20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
- Clubs
20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
- Clubs

Units:
6 x Kroxigor (280)
8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)
8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)

Battalions:
Sunclaw Temple-Host (140)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs:
Bound Emerald Lifeswarm (60)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 137

Use the Bound Emerald Lifeswarm to keep your blocks of Saurus Warriors healthy longer. Make sure you are using the Oldblood command ability. If you want to go more offensive with the warriors you can drop the Lifeswarm and a Salamander to bring the ScV on Coldone. This will allow you to throw his command ability onto the 40x Saurus warriors.

You could also take a minimal battalion of Firelance instead of Sunclaw and then a single block of maxed warriors. This would give your army a bit more mobility.

 

[Boshea]

Koatl's Claw Sunclaw Temple Host

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Coalesced
- Koatl's Claw

Leaders
Skink Starseer (140)
- General
- Command Trait: Master of Star Rituals
- Artefact: Incandescent Rectrices
- Spell: Hand of Glory
Skink Starpriest (120)
- Spell: Celestial Harmony
Saurus Sunblood (130)
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (250)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Eviscerating Blade

Battleline
40 x Saurus Warriors (320)
- Spears
40 x Saurus Warriors (320)
- Spears
20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
- Clubs

Battalions
Sunclaw Starhost (180)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Bound Chronomantic Cogs (90)
Bound Emerald Lifeswarm (60)
Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 134

Not wild about 2 Wizard and 3 Endless spells. Specially when I will want to cast the on scroll spell for both wizards frequently.

I also don't like 3 endless with two wizards. Looking at a spin of the list dropping the endless spells to fit in an Oldblood on Carnosaur to get 2+ to hit and a second Carno. I know the spells only add up to 210, but you currently have the wrong version of Sunclaw in this list. Sunclaw Temple-host is only 140. Also wish the battalion was OLD BLOOD and not Saurus Oldblood so you could get rend 2 on Massive Jaws. Realm of Hysh to grab the Brooch may be worth it since we have the Starseer for extra CP. May be worth it to have Saurus general for Dominant Predator if one hero is going to be spamming their command ability. Dominant Predator just feels like a worse Mighty Warleader if you're not going to throw out a ton of commands with the general.

 

[LizardWizard]

I also don't like 3 endless with two wizards. Looking at a spin of the list dropping the endless spells to fit in an Oldblood on Carnosaur to get 2+ to hit and a second Carno. I know the spells only add up to 210, but you currently have the wrong version of Sunclaw in this list. Sunclaw Temple-host is only 140. Also wish the battalion was OLD BLOOD and not Saurus Oldblood so you could get rend 2 on Massive Jaws. Realm of Hysh to grab the Brooch may be worth it since we have the Starseer for extra CP. May be worth it to have Saurus general for Dominant Predator if one hero is going to be spamming their command ability. Dominant Predator just feels like a worse Mighty Warleader if you're not going to throw out a ton of commands with the general.

Ironic. I was just editing the list while you were making your comment. Decided to change the general and command trait after writing the Saurus and Kroxigor list for @Lord Skal'terakk. I missed the battalion cost error on Sunclaw Temple-Host though. I will have to go back and change it.

Decided to change to an Oldblood on Carno with an ScV on Co. I want to be able to use both CA on the 40x blocks of warriors.

 

[Boshea]

I'd still ditch the spells for getting the ScV on Carno, but that's just preference.. He's also a better carrier for the blade than the Old one due to more attacks. Sunblood would also be really mean with proc'ing 3 MWs on 6s.

 

[DeathBringer125]

Hey @LizardWizard could you make me a 1k list with Kroak? Preferably with an eotg and no more than 6 rippers (I only have 6)

 

[Lizerd]

Hey @LizardWizard could you make me a 1k list with Kroak? Preferably with an eotg and no more than 6 rippers (I only have 6)

I may not be @LizardWizard but I (kind of) know what I’m doing.

Maybe something like this?
Allegiance: Seraphon
Coalesced, Thinderlizard
Leaders
Lord Kroak (320)
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Engine of the Gods (260)
-General prime warbeast
-Stegadon helm
Battleline
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
10 x Skinks (60)
- Moonstone Clubs & Star bucklers

Units
6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (180)

Total: 1000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 68

 

[LizardWizard]

I may not be @LizardWizard but I (kind of) know what I’m doing.

Maybe something like this?
Allegiance: Seraphon
Coalesced, Thinderlizard
Leaders
Lord Kroak (320)
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Engine of the Gods (260)
-Generalrime warbeast
-Stegadon helm
Battleline
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
10 x Skinks (60)
- Moonstone Clubs & Star bucklers

Units
6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (180)

Total: 1000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 68

I approve!

 

[Carnikang]

I may not be @LizardWizard but I (kind of) know what I’m doing.

Maybe something like this?
Allegiance: Seraphon
Coalesced, Thinderlizard
Leaders
Lord Kroak (320)
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Engine of the Gods (260)
-Generalrime warbeast
-Stegadon helm
Battleline
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
10 x Skinks (60)
- Moonstone Clubs & Star bucklers

Units
6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (180)

Total: 1000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 68

Could turn the two Sauras units into one, as 1000 pt armies only need 2 battleline.

 

[Wilhelm Stürmer]

Koatl's Claw Sunclaw Temple Host

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Coalesced
- Koatl's Claw

Leaders:
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (250)
- General
- Command Trait: Dominate Predator
- Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
Skink Starseer (140)
- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch
- Spell: Hand of Glory
Skink Starpriest (120)
- Spell: Celestial Harmony
Saurus Sunblood (130)
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Coldone (110)

Battleline:
40 x Saurus Warriors (320)
- Spears
40 x Saurus Warriors (320)
- Spears
20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
- Clubs

Battalions:
Sunclaw Starhost (140)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs:
Bound Emerald Lifeswarm (60)
Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)

Total: 1980 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 134

I really don't think the Coalesced version of Sunclaw is worth the point. It's giving Jaw attacks on the Warriors and Hero -1 Rend, but on average you're not going to get that many in to make it worth it. Also, you can't use a Starhost Battalion in a Coalesced army and vice-versa.

 

[Wilhelm Stürmer]

Dracothion's Tail Hunting Packs

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Starborne
- Dracothion's Tail

Leaders:
Slann Starmaster (260)
- General
- Command Trait:
- Artefact: Godbeast Token
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
- Spell: Celestial Equilibrium
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
Skink Starpriest (120)
- Spell: Hand of Glory
Skink Priest (70)
Terradon Chief (80)

Battleline:
20 x Skinks (120)
- Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (60)
- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (60)
- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers

Units:
12 x Terradon Riders (360)
- Sunleech Bolas
12 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)
12 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)
12 x Razordons Hunting Pack (240)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 137

Units in the heavens:

• Slamander Hunting Pack
• Slamander Hunting Pack
• Razordon Hunting Pack
• Terradon Chief (This is to make sure he remains alive and can be deployed where the Terradons move to when needed).
• 20x Skinks

Heh, why did you include Razordons? If you're gonna go cheese, GO FULL CHEESE!

 

[Boshea]

I really don't think the Coalesced version of Sunclaw is worth the point. It's giving Jaw attacks on the Warriors and Hero -1 Rend, but on average you're not going to get that many in to make it worth it. Also, you can't use a Starhost Battalion in a Coalesced army and vice-versa.

We caught that earlier, its a typo but the points are right. It still gets you a relic, a CP, and drop 4 units at once.

 

[LizardWizard]

I really don't think the Coalesced version of Sunclaw is worth the point. It's giving Jaw attacks on the Warriors and Hero -1 Rend, but on average you're not going to get that many in to make it worth it. Also, you can't use a Starhost Battalion in a Coalesced army and vice-versa.

It is just to make room for the Aetherquartz Brooch and start with additional CP.

 

[LizardWizard]

Heh, why did you include Razordons? If you're gonna go cheese, GO FULL CHEESE!

Razordons are still better at killing some units than Salamanders. Overall Salamanders have certainly replaced Razordons. However, vs Skeletons, Skaven, Dok, ect the Razordons are more effective. Hunting packs are now interchangeable to fit local meta.

 

[Erta Wanderer]

Razordons are still better at killing some units than Salamanders. Overall Salamanders have certainly replaced Razordons. However, vs Skeletons, Skaven, Dok, ect the Razordons are more effective. Hunting packs are now interchangeable to fit local meta.

i hope they keep the d6 shots on the charge. i know thats a oversite but it makes them very good skirmishers

 

[Lord Skal'terakk]

Found some freetime. Here is a Saurus and Kroxigor list. Hope you like it @Lord Skal'terakk

Allegiance: Seraphon
-Mortal Realm: Hysh
- Coalesced
-Koatl's Claw


Leaders:
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (250)
- General
- Command Trait: Dominate Predator
- Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
Skink Starseer (140)
- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch
- Spell: Hand of Glory
Skink Starpriest (120)
- Spell: Tide of Serpents

Battleline:
40 x Saurus Warriors (320)
- Spears
20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
- Clubs
20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
- Clubs

Units:
6 x Kroxigor (280)
8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)
8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)

Battalions:
Sunclaw Temple-Host (140)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs:
Bound Emerald Lifeswarm (60)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 137

Use the Bound Emerald Lifeswarm to keep your blocks of Saurus Warriors healthy longer. Make sure you are using the Oldblood command ability. If you want to go more offensive with the warriors you can drop the Lifeswarm and a Salamander to bring the ScV on Coldone. This will allow you to throw his command ability onto the 40x Saurus warriors.

You could also take a minimal battalion of Firelance instead of Sunclaw and then a single block of maxed warriors. This would give your army a bit more mobility.

I had a dream where you posted here that you wouldn't have the time to make the list whatsoever. Then I wake up to this beautiful marvelous list <3 THANK YOU THANK YOU!!
I'm totally making my realmshaper pyramid intro an altar of you. Not sure how I'm going to go about it, but it's gonna happen.
I like the idea of having a minimum size firelance instead of Sunclaw, maybe also drop the spell and get a Scar-Vet on cold one? His command with the 3d6 charge of the starseer should be AMAZING for such a slow horde, and it's really thematic to have mounted soldiers in the list. It gives me a reason to buy some new stuff and to experiment with it a lot! It really looks like a well rounded Saurus army, I absolutely love it, you're a genius. Thank you!!!

 

[Erta Wanderer]

I had a dream where you posted here that you wouldn't have the time to make the list whatsoever. Then I wake up to this beautiful marvelous list <3 THANK YOU THANK YOU!!
I'm totally making my realmshaper pyramid intro an altar of you. Not sure how I'm going to go about it, but it's gonna happen.
I like the idea of having a minimum size firelance instead of Sunclaw, maybe also drop the spell and get a Scar-Vet on cold one? His command with the 3d6 charge of the starseer should be AMAZING for such a slow horde, and it's really thematic to have mounted soldiers in the list. It gives me a reason to buy some new stuff and to experiment with it a lot! It really looks like a well rounded Saurus army, I absolutely love it, you're a genius. Thank you!!!

lizard wizard is the one on the left print it out cut him out and stick it to the front of your relm shaper