Tutorial Matched Play List GHB2019

[Putzfrau]

FoS is interesting to say the least. I would say that against daemons that have to go in Melee (slaanesh, khorne, burgle) it does ok. If you can get reroll saves of 1, or just rerolling failed saves warriors become decently tough for their price point. However if you want better staying power maybe guards could be used with razordons or salamanders in support as guard do have decent staying power.

Problem is Guard just don't have the bodies. Want the bodies for board control.

 

[Lizerd]

Maybe a skink screen could be used to help block stuff? They can also be used in the way @LizardWizard suggested in his list in conjunction with Ripperdactyls while skinks grab stuff

 

[LizardWizard]

Problem is Guard just don't have the bodies. Want the bodies for board control.

Only issue is that Blood Letters and Blood Thirsters of Incinerate Rage will destroy Eternal Guard. There are also a few other armies that really dish out mortal wounds a well. I think Shadowstrike with Eternal Starhost is one of the better ways to run the battallion because the Rippers can kill a MaxSU of Bloodletters or what ever else posses the the greatest threat to their castle.

 

[Emanu]

Hi guys, one question, i have created a list with both slann starmaster and Kroak, i thought that if i wouldnt cast spells with both i could have collected celestial points but he said that only the general collects celestial points. Is that correct?

 

[Erta Wanderer]

Hi guys, one question, i have created a list with both slann starmaster and Kroak, i thought that if i wouldnt cast spells with both i could have collected celestial points but he said that only the general collects celestial points. Is that correct?

yup slann and kroak can still work but only one of them can be your summon engine

 

[A_Reptile_Dysfunction]

yup slann and kroak can still work but only one of them can be your summon engine

If you fancy it @Killer Angel has recently posted Battle Report featuring a list using both Slaan and Kroak. Not sure how to link to it however.

 

[Killer Angel]

If you fancy it @Killer Angel has recently posted Battle Report featuring a list using both Slaan and Kroak. Not sure how to link to it however.

here it is.

Actually, I'm pondering about a list that doesn't rely on summoning. That could be the next BatRep.

 

[Emanu]

Ok thanks for the tip!

 

[LizardWizard]

@LizardWizard say, how about a list with 4 carnosaurs and a dread saurian?

Triple Carno and a Dread Saurian:

Allegiance: Seraphon
-Mortal Realm: Ulgu

Leaders:
Slann Starmaster (260)
- General
- Trait: Great Rememberer
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Skink Starpriest (80)
- Spell: Celestial Apotheosis
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (240)
- Artefact: Doppelganger Cloak
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (240)
- Artefact: Miasmatic Blade
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement

Battleline:
5 x Saurus Knights (80)
- Lances
5 x Saurus Knights (80)
- Lances
5 x Saurus Knights (80)
- Lances

Behemoths:
Dread Saurian (420)

Battalions:
Fangs of Sotek (70)
Firelance Starhost (150)

Endless Spells / Terrain:
Balewind Vortex (40)

Total: 1980 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 93

Sadly the most I could fit is 3. If you really want to run 4 Carnos then drop the battalions and run skinks. I think DT is one of the better delivery systems for the Dread Saurian. Cogs would also be ideal. I am not sure if the Serpents Staff out weighs cogs, but you could also drop the Skink Starpriest to add in cogs.

 

[Magical_pinata]

If cogs goes off LoSaT Slann on BwV up field for range of battalion's deepstrike

FYI if you LoSaT on the BwV it is dispelled. As that counts as the spell leaving the table.

 

[Killer Angel]

FYI if you LoSaT on the BwV it is dispelled. As that counts as the spell leaving the table.

The designer's commentary for skaven says otherwise.

 

[Canas]

FYI if you LoSaT on the BwV it is dispelled. As that counts as the spell leaving the table.

The designer's commentary for skaven says otherwise.

Didn't they specificly F.A.Q. that you could do this with the balewindvortex for us as well at some point?

 

[LizardWizard]

The BWV isn't leaving the table from a rules perspective. The rules say the BWV counts as part of the model. Thus it travels with the model. This is explicitly stated in the sources @Killer Angel mentioned above.

 

[Nart]

Didn't they specificly F.A.Q. that you could do this with the balewindvortex for us as well at some point?

No, but it could go to the main RB or MS FAQ at some point, as they did with bloodletters keyword in Khorne battletome.

 

[Lizerd]

@LizardWizard sorry if this is hijacking your thread a bit, but can you try and write an experimental list or two for the new seraphon battletome @Erta Wanderer and I have been working on?

 

[LizardWizard]

@LizardWizard sorry if this is hijacking your thread a bit, but can you try and write an experimental list or two for the new seraphon battletome @Erta Wanderer and I have been working on?

Sure thing, that sounds fun. Do you want me to just post the theoretical lists in the your two's battletome thread when they are done?

Would it be possible to get a condensed version of the battletome and matched play points that is more consumable? For alas I am lazy and hate jumping between pages

 

[Erta Wanderer]

Sure thing, that sounds fun. Do you want me to just post the theoretical lists in the your two's battletome thread when they are done?

Would it be possible to get a condensed version of the battletome and matched play points that is more consumable? For alas I am lazy and hate jumping between pages

its all currently on page 14 at least until the google doc is done

 

[Lizerd]

Alright, it’s here. It might need one or two things to add but it’s up
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-ubHvSRTw9B51A-mJJP_QRI2E9YXgfhcJb2C-4J_6yw

 

[LizardWizard]

Alright, it’s here. It might need one or two things to add but it’s up
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-ubHvSRTw9B51A-mJJP_QRI2E9YXgfhcJb2C-4J_6yw

Much appreciated. I will read through and build a couple lists in the next few days.

 

[Erta Wanderer]

Much appreciated. I will reaf through and build a couple lists in the next few days.

if you notes anything that needs changing let me know