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GW News: LAS VEGAS OPEN 2025

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
@NIGHTBRINGER wanted a Void Dragon C’Tan when the 5th Edition Necron Codex was first rumoured to be on its way... and was disappointed when no such thing appeared. Now, 9 years overdue, his wish has come true:
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True, it will only be usable officially in 9th Edition, but a determined gamer could write and playtest some unofficial rules to use him in earlier editions...

And we finally get to see Szarekh, the last of the Silent Kings, in his full regal glory:
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What magnificent new models (expensive, but magnificent). I’m looking forward to writing some unofficial rules to use these in earlier editions!
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Both of those models look really great. GW really is the best model maker in the entire industry.
 
well the do look rather grand. Not sure if I actually like em though, they somehow don't feel like necrons. Maybe it's just that they have too much personality while the average necron is of course completly personality-less.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
In the case of Szarekh that’s the point, the ruling Necrons have most, if not all, of their personality intact, while that privilege was never granted to the ordinary Necrons.
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I guess, but somehow it just strikes me as too much. The other necron heroes are also supposed to have (some part) of their personality left intact. But for the most part they're still relativly indistinct from other necron and eachother, they get a slightly different head, a fancier weapon. But there's nothing quite as grand, opulent, or showboaty as this. Don't get me wrong, it's a beautifull model, and it just screams "I am the true king, bow down to me". It's just that this somehow doesn't fit with the necrons as a whole.
 
Canas said:
How is this his fault? :p
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@NIGHTBRINGER dislikes the 5th Edition book which first brought in Szarekh the Silent King and current Tomb-Kingy Necron Lore as we know it, and Matt Ward wrote it, so he's been the target of hate from every 3rd Edition Necron fan since the 5th Edition release in 2011. I personally thought the 5th Edition lore was much more interesting than the 3rd Edition C'Tan-ruled 40K Terminators which didn't fit with the Egyptian aesthetic of the models, but to each their own.

At least we agree that the Void Dragon model looks great (I also thought Szarekh looks awesome but there we are, can't please everyone)
 
I've got news about the Sons of Behemat.

Firstly the aleguzzler gargants will be re-named to Mancrushers and have their points increased by 20 so they are at 180, and they can be in units up to 3. The new mega gargants will cost 490 for the gate breaker and kraken eater. 480 for the warstomper.
 
Canas said:
Don't get me wrong, it's a beautifull model, and it just screams "I am the true king, bow down to me". It's just that this somehow doesn't fit with the necrons as a whole.
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NIGHTBRINGER said:
I blame Matt Ward.
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Canas said:
How is this his fault? :p
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Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
@NIGHTBRINGER dislikes the 5th Edition book which first brought in Szarekh the Silent King and current Tomb-Kingy Necron Lore as we know it, and Matt Ward wrote it, so he's been the target of hate from every 3rd Edition Necron fan since the 5th Edition release in 2011.
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Pretty much what @Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said. In the old lore, the Necrons had become a tragic mechanical race bound in servitude to their star god masters, the C'tan. As such, there were no kingly Necrons that you described in your original post; they were all slaves. Now they are just a cheap facsimile of the Tomb Kings with a space ascetic added to them.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
Pretty much what @Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said. In the old lore, the Necrons had become a tragic mechanical race bound in servitude to their star god masters, the C'tan. As such, there were no kingly Necrons that you described in your original post; they were all slaves. Now they are just a cheap facsimile of the Tomb Kings with a space ascetic added to them.
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Meh, I don't mind that they're essentially just tomb kings in space. But imho, their models fit much better with a broken race, bound in servitude, that never quite manages to shake of the shackles even after overthrowing the C'tan. Faceless masses, with hunched backs and skeletal bodies. The best they can hope for being to rise to the rank of overseer, overseeing the lesser servants but ultimatly still bound together in the same wretched fate.. Either falling to madness or giving in to cold calculating cruelty to ensure their own station.

On the other hand this guy basicly just looks like Space Nagash. Arrogant and certain in his right to rule, with not a hint to his time as a servant to the C'tan, or even of the fallen glory of his empire. Same with that new C'tan shard. It doesn't look like a shard. Both of these look like they're in their prime and expect you to bow down to them.


Also, look what I found on the internets. I feel like this is appropriate given the context :p
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Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
It's probably a good job they are given that Tomb Kings themselves are no longer supported - they're the closest thing we have to TK still being produced.
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Still just a facsimile!


I prefer the one and true Tomb Kings. I don't need them to be supported as I already own them and have a fully usable (although weak) book for my beloved 8th edition. Settra does not serve!
 
Canas said:
But imho, their models fit much better with a broken race, bound in servitude, that never quite manages to shake of the shackles even after overthrowing the C'tan
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In the old lore they were bound in servitude. Forever destined to live out the catastrophic deal they made with the C'tan. They traded away their souls for immortality and power; an eternal bargain.

Canas said:
Same with that new C'tan shard. It doesn't look like a shard. Both of these look like they're in their prime and expect you to bow down to them.
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That's exactly why I like the C'tan model. I hate the concept of the shards. You're absolutely right, the C'tan looks like it is it's prime... as it should be! So if someone is looking for a shard, it isn't a great model... but if someone is looking for an intact C'tan, it's pretty damn impressive.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
That's exactly why I like the C'tan model. I hate the concept of the shards. You're absolutely right, the C'tan looks like it is it's prime... as it should be! So if someone is looking for a shard, it isn't a great model... but if someone is looking for an intact C'tan, it's pretty damn impressive.
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In all honesty, I like the C'tan being shards. Having both master and servant be broken, desperatly trying to regain their former glory, fits nicely in the grimdark of warhammer.
 
Canas said:
In all honesty, I like the C'tan being shards. Having both master and servant be broken, desperatly trying to regain their former glory, fits nicely in the grimdark of warhammer.
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A fair take.

For me the C'tan were already interesting in the old lore. They were a mighty race that eventually turned on each other. Brother consumed brother until only four remained. They wiped mass quantities of life from the universe and had to go into a deep sleep until life replenished itself. Now, after millions upon millions of years of slumber, they emerge and start to grow strong again... and with their awakening, so to do their metallic enslaved minions rise once more.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
You're absolutely right, the C'tan looks like it is it's prime... as it should be! So if someone is looking for a shard, it isn't a great model... but if someone is looking for an intact C'tan, it's pretty damn impressive.
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Agreed, it’s on a Carnifex-size base which makes it substantially bigger and more impressve than the other C’Tan models yet GW still decided to label that one as a shard despite it being so big. Doesn’t make that much sense
 
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