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8th Ed. "Battlescrolls" release all through December.

Phatmotha-phucka said:
rychek said:
The Monstrous Arcanum book from Warhammer Forge already allows anyone to use any monster they want (granted you have to get the $75 book to know this (whic I have done)). Not only does it allow for monsters from the Arcanum to be added to your army (think SoM without the magic changes.
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*grabs book*
*goes through the pages for the introduction text*
*actually reads it this time*
* ????? *

is this treated as standard rules?! I always thought it was for SoM games only...

Can I seriously bring a Dread Saurian to a tournament and show my opponent this text piece for rule-lawyering and expect it to be taken for good wears?..............I doubt it....rest of the book mentions this as if it was an SoM game, and its only in the foreword that it actually says otherwise....correct me if you know better! please! :D

Axolotyl said:
Honestly half of these scrolls are old things they rehashed, the attachments and formations are just exscuse s to squeeze more pounds from us
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dont know about that...pair the Restless dead with the "Crypt Scavengers" and you have half an undead army with a necromancer added......if it counted against core this would be a sweet deal...now its just decent.

hilburn said:
The only scroll of binding I want is (Lizardmen only) Coatl
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either that or allow us the frostheart phoenix...ill convert the twitty myself.
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I can't speak for tournaments as I have never participated in one (thus my general context in non-tournament play), but I doubt that would fly. However, for those who don't play in tournaments, there are scenarios in the back that allow for monsters to be added to any game. That having been said, this is a Warhammer Forge book, not a Games Workshop book, as well as a supplement/expansion, so using the rules would be the exception, not the rule.
 
Hmm, it says Scroll of Binding Compendium, so maybe it's just that: all the previously released, digital Scrolls of Binding in one. Lame, I know, but I don't think it's too far fetched.

But that Vanguard Clash... It looks like it has a Temple Guard on it. Any wild guesses about it's contents?
 
I fear its just a scenario..

I most def do not expect a cool Lizardmen supplement.
 
Maybe it's a temple gurad/Teko-Eko unit with some other stuff that all vanguards?
 
All other reces getting acces to tetto?
 
Looks like most of the scroll are anly available to a couple armies so far.

The bit about allied armies has always been in the 8th edition book.
 
I doubt it is a LM supp, I agree it is most likely just a scenario. All of the Battle Scrolls so far have been for the boxed sets listed in the GW Gift Guide. Since I doubt they will release any more box sets before Christmas, scenario is most likely IMHO.
 
n810 said:
Looks like most of the scroll are anly available to a couple armies so far.

The bit about allied armies has always been in the 8th edition book.
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just to be clear: all formation can be taken by all Armies.

this is taken directly from one of the scrolls (I will not pass on anything else than the general rules of usage)

"ALLIED FORMATIONS

Formations do not have to be chosen from the same army book as the rest of your army. If you decide to do this, then formations made up of units from different army books follow the rules for Allied Armies on pages 136-139 of the Warhammer rulebook."

this is taken directly from my "Crypt Scavengers" ebook.


People are misunderstanding the alliance rules for "take what you want".

If you take 1500 lizardmen and 500 Wood elves what you are really playing according to these rules is two different armies. One of 1500 and one of 500, with two different Cores and pts allowances....

if your opponent is playing 2000pts one race...according to the rules this is a 2vs1 game, and unless your opponent hasn't agreed to this,
you are cheating.
If you are using other armies stuff without filling in at least 25% of that in that armies core
you are cheating

Formations on the other hand is perfectly legal and count as part of your 1player army vs another 1players army.

there is a huge different, especially since the formations have "extra" rules to them.
I wont tell what as that is part of the product, but I can tell that you arent just paying for the units alone: they bring a twist.
For example does the "Restless dead" have a usage and rules for the deployment of a "Garden of Morr" piece that affects the game with much more than just being terrain.
 
SanDiegoSurrealist said:
Lizardmen Amaxon River Patrol
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If it's as pictured, it will be interesting to see what kind of special rules would make a Troglodon useful with a bunch of units that don't have Predatory Fighter.
 
SanDiegoSurrealist said:
Caprasauridae said:
But that Vanguard Clash... It looks like it has a Temple Guard on it. Any wild guesses about it's contents?
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Might be a battle formation for the Lizardmen Amaxon River Patrol so they can push the box set ----> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440065a&prodId=prod2180002a
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Put a Templeguard on the cover of a formation that dosnt contain a single templeguard?

"Logic: It makes sense" :D
 
Ugh.. This is so sad..

At least there's Vanguard Clash tomorrow. We'll see what it brings.

One thing though - I just realized the Scroll of Binding says "compendium". I have no clue about SoM, but I'm getting more confident that it's something similar just for regular warhammer..
 
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the scroll of binding compendium is merely a list of the new monsters that have been released since Storm of Magic was released. There have been a fair few, such as the Troglodon, Bastilodon, Ripperdactyl, Flamespyre Phoenix, Frostheart Phoenix, the Abyssal Terror (new DE monster) and all of the other new monsters form recent releases. In fact, the simple addition of the Frostheart Phoenix would make me happy. Saurus Warriors getting torn to pieces? Bring in the Ice Budgie and watch the tide of battle turn!
 
Phatmotha-phucka said:
SanDiegoSurrealist said:
Caprasauridae said:
But that Vanguard Clash... It looks like it has a Temple Guard on it. Any wild guesses about it's contents?
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Might be a battle formation for the Lizardmen Amaxon River Patrol so they can push the box set ----> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440065a&prodId=prod2180002a
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Put a Templeguard on the cover of a formation that dosnt contain a single templeguard?

"Logic: It makes sense" :D
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Putting Temple Guard that dont have vanguard on something called Vanguard Clash.
 
Makes more sense than if it was for the amaxon patrol box, as its probably a scenario or something.
 
yup...

unless scrolls of binding gives me access to a ice phoenix or some other flyer, I have no interest in the rest of decembers releases...and I count on being disappointed there too.
 
WTF? The Vanguard Clash is in fact a scenario. Why is there LM on the cover when the story/fluff included don't even mention them? It is a scenario for 500-750 points that may be able to link larger battles together. Some special rules included for units. I was hoping to at least read some LM fluff.
 
From Warseer:

Clockwork;7009079 said:
Well, its not a direct analogy no. But they are both hobbies which require a big cash injection to get started. They then both provide hours of entertainment (gaming vs modelling, painting and gaming).

I don't want to derail this into a GW price debate, and there are certainly cheaper alternative table top wargames out there. But the point is when you put it into context with dropping £400-500 on the latest console or a gaming PC, getting a small force for less than £100 isn't too bad.

Vanguard Clash is out! Its only 0.99p so I've picked up a copy. Thoughts soon.

Well its 19 pages in iBook format. 6 are fluff and 6 are rules. The rest is just guff.

The recommended points size is 500-750 points with standard Battleline deployment.

For the purposes of the scenario, you gain a special rule "Outrider Elite" if all the units you choose fit into one or more of several categories (has the Scout or Vanguard Special Rule, etc). There's 6 categories to qualify and this Special Rule has three effects:

1) All units gain Vanguard and Swiftstride if they didn't have it before.
2) All ranged weapons gain Quick to Fire (losing Move or Fire if they had it).
3) All Cavalry and Chariots have Devestating Charge when they go into a flank or rear (this should be a default rule imo...).

In addition, if both players agree, the winner of the Vanguard Clash may choose the next full size game type instead of rolling, or wins any draws in the roll off to see who goes first and may re-roll their result (Accepting the second even if its worse).

Immediate thoughts: Great! A scenario that really encourages mobility and speed over big units, and can tie over into a larger game without giving one player an unfair advantage. Looks like a lot of fun and I'd like to start working it into all my games.

Secondary thoughts: Dark Elves are broken as balls in this scenario. Dark Riders + Dark Steed Master + Shades + Warlocks + Scourgerunner Chariot, all with Vanguard and Quick to Fire Repeater Crossbows O.O

Edit2: Mmmm... Lizardmen. Quick to Fire Poison Blowpipes, but you are limited entirely to Skink units, which makes sense.
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