AoS Where does the Starseer fit in?

[btrain16]

Hi all,

It seems like the Starpriest and regular Priest are the go-to low-cost magic options for us, with the Kroak package being the high-end one.

Even though the Starseer seems useful, I don't see it showing up in a lot of lists. Is it just caught in an awkward middle ground? Or is the 3D6 charge just more attractive on paper than in practice?

 

[Erta Wanderer]

Hi all,

It seems like the Starpriest and regular Priest are the go-to low-cost magic options for us, with the Kroak package being the high-end one.

Even though the Starseer seems useful, I don't see it showing up in a lot of lists. Is it just caught in an awkward middle ground? Or is the 3D6 charge just more attractive on paper than in practice?

It's a good unit but it's more for melee builds and not many people run those and when they do our heroes slots are already taken up by old bloods Sun Bloods star priests. It's not that it's bad it's that are hero slots are at a premium.

 

[ILKAIN]

It's a good unit but it's more for melee builds and not many people run those and when they do our heroes slots are already taken up by old bloods Sun Bloods star priests. It's not that it's bad it's that are hero slots are at a premium.

now if they made it a mid level caster and gave it two casts a turn instead of one, to bridge between the star priest and the slann….

 

[Putzfrau]

I use the Starseer in nearly all my Koatl's Claw builds with the firelance. The extra reach is amazing, helps offset their relatively low (for cav) movement and inability to run and charge.

 

[Canas]

now if they made it a mid level caster and gave it two casts a turn instead of one, to bridge between the star priest and the slann….

He needs something to distinguish himself from a starpriest in general. Right now it's basicly just the bonus to charge v.s. mortal wounds, with the other differences being fairly minor. And the mortal wounds are simply more usefull in most situations & lists. It's not that the charge bonus is bad, it's just that the starpriest is nearly always better while also being cheaper. The only exception being Koatl's claw like @Putzfrau pointed out, and even then you'l want to bring a starpriest as well anyway...

And there's plenty of options; give him an extra spell, give him better attacks so you can use him for some more fire support (yes he has better attacks right now, but the average difference is only 0.44 wounds which is basicly irrelevant...). Make the difference for their CP generating bigger. Give him 2 extra wounds and a 4+ save so we have a skink support hero that doesn't get sniped on accident.

 

[Killer Angel]

now if they made it a mid level caster and gave it two casts a turn instead of one, to bridge between the star priest and the slann….

so much true

it's just that the starpriest is nearly always better while also being cheaper. The only exception being Koatl's claw like @Putzfrau pointed out, and even then you'l want to bring a starpriest as well anyway...

...especially given that a ton of attacks at no rend, really needs those MWs to be effective

 

[LizardWizard]

Tottaly agree. Would love to see the Starseer and Oracle become lvl 2 casters.

 

[Gailon]

There are so many ways to play seraphon, I don't think every hero/unit can have a clear role in a competitive list. Some of them have niche roles in less competitive build options.

With that said, my starseer has a critical role in Starborne Saurus. Obviously, starborne is way better for skinks, but I wanted to build a starborne list with the saurus battalions.

So with LoSaT and bringing in reserve units that 3d6 charge is essential to get a really important charge in when you bring in or teleport a unit. 3d.6 rerolling gets 9 or higher fairly consistently, add in the +1 charge asterism on a turn with a critical charge and it is very reliable.

It's not as strong as skinks or coalesced saurus, but it plays very different than either, is fun, and is pretty different to play.