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Star Trek vs. Star Wars (and a collection of memes)

Star Trek or Star Wars; which do you like better?

  • Star Trek

    Votes: 19 23.8%

  • Star Wars

    Votes: 61 76.3%
  • Total voters
    80
NIGHTBRINGER said:
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I saw the video earlier. I didn't opt to post it because I am loathe to admit that I still care about Star Wars a little bit.

Yesterday I was pondering how cool a live action Batman Beyond reboot would be. Then I thought, they'd ruin it somehow. We draw the line in the sand. Stop remaking old stuff people in a bad way. Give us new stuff. You know, but not Jupiter Descending.
 
Scalenex said:
I saw the video earlier. I didn't opt to post it because I am loathe to admit that I still care about Star Wars a little bit.
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Disney Star Wars is dead, but ultimately they can't hurt real Star Wars. Just watch the good stuff and ignore the rest.

Once Kennedy is gone, things will be better. She is the one who is responsible for dragging it down.
 
Just a thought, but does anyone know what proportion of the OT Star Wars fans were adults when it came out, and how many of them remained enduring fans after the films finished? Because at the moment, it seems the vast majority of the vocal portion of Star War’s fan base consists of those who saw it as a child and fell in love with it then, and so for them it’s the OT Star Wars that is “their” Star Wars as opposed to any more recent media. Granted this will be in no small part because that generation is now the dominant generation, but nonetheless it does somewhat point to the fact that an aspect of the Star Wars franchise’s fan base will be primarily made up of those who saw it as children rather than those who saw it as adults, and so it is them that Star Wars owes its enduring status to. If that is the case, it occurs to me that the reactions we’re getting now to things like the Sequel Trilogy may well not be indicative of the true legacy it will have, because the people that are currently vocally judging it are not the ones who will truly define its ultimate reception - the children aren’t writing the reviews or posting on the forums. If you want to gain a true judgement as to how the ST will ultimately be judged and perceived, it may well be that you are better off asking the children who have been brought up with the ST what their reactions to it are rather than simply assuming that beliefs and opinions now will hold forever.
 
ravagekitteh said:
Just a thought, but does anyone know what proportion of the OT Star Wars fans were adults when it came out, and how many of them remained enduring fans after the films finished? Because at the moment, it seems the vast majority of the vocal portion of Star War’s fan base consists of those who saw it as a child and fell in love with it then, and so for them it’s the OT Star Wars that is “their” Star Wars as opposed to any more recent media. Granted this will be in no small part because that generation is now the dominant generation, but nonetheless it does somewhat point to the fact that an aspect of the Star Wars franchise’s fan base will be primarily made up of those who saw it as children rather than those who saw it as adults, and so it is them that Star Wars owes its enduring status to.
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Indeed I agree with this - by far and away the most vocal of OT purists are those who were exposed to the escapist format as children. I have two relatives who both saw the OT in their teens/twenties, and while they thought they were OK, they were both far less quick to criticise any Star Wars media that came after them. I know they're not fully indicative of that older age group, but I'm just giving examples of what I know from the environment in my direct vicinity.

ravagekitteh said:
If that is the case, it occurs to me that the reactions we’re getting now to things like the Sequel Trilogy may well not be indicative of the true legacy it will have, because the people that are currently vocally judging it are not the ones who will truly define its ultimate reception - the children aren’t writing the reviews or posting on the forums. If you want to gain a true judgement as to how the ST will ultimately be judged and perceived, it may well be that you are better off asking the children who have been brought up with the ST what their reactions to it are rather than simply assuming that beliefs and opinions now will hold forever.
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That makes sense. I saw the Prequel Trilogy first when I was 12 (I was extremely young when they first came out, so only watched them later), and that remains my fave part of Star Wars (not counting Rogue One, which nevertheless retained the more militaristic atmosphere from Episodes I-III), so I would say I count as being part of that boat of people who sees their favourite trilogy in their youth. I look forward to seeing what the figures look like in about 30 years or so, when the OT generation is dying out and the Prequels generation has inherited their throne of power.
 
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