KoW Salamander Colour Schemes

[Warden]

I haven't come across this thread yet, so I just have to say master @BAE your work is truly inspiring! This was one of those threads where I had to go back all the way to page 1.

And this is where I got to with my Ankylodon before I decided he was too crap to field! I'll finish the howdah cloth, rope highlighting and mouth eventually, but it will have to be after the Clash of Kings competition.

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Loved your not-stegadon. Your painting is beautiful, if I ever go back and actually add highlights to mine I am using yours as a reference.

Key words in that post: "a long time". Rookie mistake on my part... All sorted! Glued into troops with self-adhesive magnetic rubber on the underside of each troop. I had mild steel sheet custom cut to the sizes of regiments and hordes so now I can magnetise multiple troops as required for any list.

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Glad to see another magnetic project coming out successfully! More reason for me to attempt it, thanks for posting.

Here are a few pics of my fiery lizards:

I use Vallejo's models colors. A base of Bright orange, washed with black wash and drybrushed again with Bright orange. I then drybrush 3 layers of mixes of Bright orange and Flat yellow, increasing the amount of the latter each time.

Love the way you paint your fiery salamanders, and the last model is an amazing work by itself!

Great ideas all around, thank you for the inspiration!

 

[BAE]

I haven't come across this thread yet, so I just have to say master @BAE your work is truly inspiring! This was one of those threads where I had to go back all the way to page 1.

Loved your not-stegadon. Your painting is beautiful, if I ever go back and actually add highlights to mine I am using yours as a reference.

Glad to see another magnetic project coming out successfully! More reason for me to attempt it, thanks for posting.

Thank you! Although I am rather hoping to get a lot better than I am at the moment. This is the first army I've ever properly painted and I'm just happy I can still see myself improving with each model. The next one to get sorted is a mounted Mage Priest, although I've found the Kaisenor (Cold One) remarkably difficult to create depth:



p.s. if you're going to start magnetising stuff, don't use mild steel like I did originally. It keeps rusting so it's useless. Use Stainless Steel 430.

 

[Crowsfoot]

Thank you! Although I am rather hoping to get a lot better than I am at the moment. This is the first army I've ever properly painted and I'm just happy I can still see myself improving with each model. The next one to get sorted is a mounted Mage Priest, although I've found the Kaisenor (Cold One) remarkably difficult to create depth:

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p.s. if you're going to start magnetising stuff, don't use mild steel like I did originally. It keeps rusting so it's useless. Use Stainless Steel 430.

To get more depth you need a darker tone between the scales you can do that by applying nuln oil between the gaps might take 2 coats, use a smallish brush and paint in between carefully,or you could wash it completely with nuln oil and then redo the scales.

 

[Warden]

Really great job painting that cold-one the mage with the fire-staff is on. I really like the beautiful detail/highlighting!

 

[BAE]

To get more depth you need a darker tone between the scales you can do that by applying nuln oil between the gaps might take 2 coats, use a smallish brush and paint in between carefully,or you could wash it completely with nuln oil and then redo the scales.

Done! Went carefully around each scale with 1 coat. It's subtle but it definitely helps, thank you! A fountain of wisdom as always...!

Really great job painting that cold-one the mage with the fire-staff is on. I really like the beautiful detail/highlighting!

Thank you - we will see whether you're still saying that after I've painted his underside! I find the GW bone colours (particularly Ushabti Bone) really sticky and difficult to work with, and when it's watered down to a workable level it becomes pretty much translucent so takes a million coats to cover. It's because of this that the transition between the green skin and bone-coloured belly on my previous Kaisenors (Cold Ones) is rather crude (see pictures before). To try and create a better transition I'm thinking to use my airbrush, but it will be the first time I've done any detailed work with it so I'm worried I'll accidentally spray parts I'm not supposed to! All I've done with my airbrush previously is priming and block colours. I'll be doing it tonight so here's to hoping!

 

[Crowsfoot]

Done! Went carefully around each scale with 1 coat. It's subtle but it definitely helps, thank you! A fountain of wisdom as always...!



Thank you - we will see whether you're still saying that after I've painted his underside! I find the GW bone colours (particularly Ushabti Bone) really sticky and difficult to work with, and when it's watered down to a workable level it becomes pretty much translucent so takes a million coats to cover. It's because of this that the transition between the green skin and bone-coloured belly on my previous Kaisenors (Cold Ones) is rather crude (see pictures before). To try and create a better transition I'm thinking to use my airbrush, but it will be the first time I've done any detailed work with it so I'm worried I'll accidentally spray parts I'm not supposed to! All I've done with my airbrush previously is priming and block colours. I'll be doing it tonight so here's to hoping!

Pics?

 

[Ritual]

Thank you! Although I am rather hoping to get a lot better than I am at the moment. This is the first army I've ever properly painted and I'm just happy I can still see myself improving with each model. The next one to get sorted is a mounted Mage Priest, although I've found the Kaisenor (Cold One) remarkably difficult to create depth:

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p.s. if you're going to start magnetising stuff, don't use mild steel like I did originally. It keeps rusting so it's useless. Use Stainless Steel 430.

Really like the cloak on the Cold One, don't think I have ever looked at it properly close up. Might have to get myself one of these models proper just for that, or find something else with a similar cloak I can make use of.

 

[Qupakoco]

For whites and off whites, my colors always look better with a light brown base coat. So in your case, paint the belly a light brown and paint the green/white transition with a lighter brown (might have to mix with white). It'll help it look significantly smoother and natural.

 

[BAE]

It didn't go as badly as i thought! The Zandri Dust Air laid down really well and looked great, blending perfectly. Unfortunately it turns out that Ushabti Bone Air is just as difficult to work with as Ushabti Bone Layer, this time being way too watery. As such it came out a little speckled. Ah well! Happy with how it came out for a first attempt at detailed airbrush work!

 

[Warden]

It didn't go as badly as i thought! The Zandri Dust Air laid down really well and looked great, blending perfectly. Unfortunately it turns out that Ushabti Bone Air is just as difficult to work with as Ushabti Bone Layer, this time being way too watery. As such it came out a little speckled. Ah well! Happy with how it came out for a first attempt at detailed airbrush work!

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From this angle it looks like that cold-one is wearing really worn-out sneakers.

 

[Bowser]

I think this turned out amazing! The underbelly looks so great! Fantastic blending.

 

[Crowsfoot]

From this angle it looks like that cold-one is wearing really worn-out sneakers.

I nearly pissed when I read that

 

[BAE]

After some debate and much procrastination I thought I would try to bridge the gap (and there is a big gap) between the Gamezone predators and GW saurus. It looks like a poofy cushion is the way I'm going to do them. First, blob of green stuff between them and smoosh them together, which makes the green stuff ooze out the side a bit. Then cut a line and indent with stitch holes. Finally, attach stitches! First time I've ever done anything like this so rather chuffed with them and I know I'll improve considerably on the next 5.

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[Bowser]

The stitching looks amazing! This is a really awesome conversion.

 

[Crowsfoot]

That looks really good, shame the Gamezone models are such a bad cast they take a lot of work to fill!

 

[BAE]

That looks really good, shame the Gamezone models are such a bad cast they take a lot of work to fill!

I'm fine with it to be fair! It takes a bit of time, but having to fix the lines between parts provides good green stuff shaping experience, and knowing how to use green stuff well is essential if one wants to do any conversions or modifications. I'd rather have awesome models that require extensive fixes than less awesome models that go together perfectly. And Gamezone sure do some awesome models

 

[BAE]

Moving house has played merry hell with my progress, but I have finally been able to finish off the green stuff work and zenithal prime them! The riders are all sitting a tad higher than they will be as they are blu tacked on currently. However, I'm really struggling to think of a colour for the Rhinosaurs. I want to avoid fire colours as I would prefer to use these exclusively for the fiery races/units/models in the army. The most obvious colour would be green, but my Kaisenors are green and I feel this may make them look too similar. The riders will be blue/grey as per all my other salamanders, so blue wouldn't be distinct enough. And I don't have any purple paints, so that's out as well. Any ideas??

 

[Jack Trowell]

Maybe some kind of brown ? There are lots of brown snake and lizards that could serve as a reference.

The best options would probably be something with some kind of spots, lines or other pattern if you have the skill and the time for it, but even plain brown might give you a distinct look while not crashing with the red and greens of the rest of the army.

 

[Crowsfoot]

I think @Jack Trowell is on to something creamish belly with light brown scales, dark chainmail with bronze/copper armour, dark brown saddles.

That will be one stunning unit when finished and an expensive one!

 

[BAE]

Right, I'm stuck. I've been using this image for inspiration:



And so far I am here:



I just don't know how to paint the black stripes, or even where to put them. But I feel the model as it is it quite boring and not 'uber predator' enough. Any ideas?

Edit:

Problem solved! I went for blue!