Slann
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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It's getting a bit silly though.
Especially the start-collecting boxes, they used to be 50-60 euro, which is pretty doable as a birthday gift and makes a pretty doable start to introduce a new player.
Now they're around a 90-110, which is increadibly steep for a starter box. You don't even have the paints yet, let alone a full army.
Hell, at this point start collecting box is becoming comparable in prize to the boxed armies (at least the medium sized ones), where you get more stuff & you actually get two faction so you can actually play.
Which is kind of the most annoying part of GW's prizing, it makes absolutly zero sense.
I so agree here and if I came any later to the hobby I would have been deterred. Its one of the reason I've stayed away from 40k because of the combat patrol prices. Even the boarding patrol is a just out of my monthly budget range so I end up just buying other stuff. Plus I like buying a unit at a time or I end up with a huge backlog.
Agreed, army boxes have gradually decreased in value since the Fantasy/proper 40K days.
Originally you had Battalion/Battleforce boxes, around £50-60 like SC boxes and with a good few units in (the Lizardmen one for example had 20 Saurus, 12 Skinks, 10 Temple Guard and 8 Saurus Cav). I started Tyranids with the Tyranid Battleforce that was around at the time. These were great for army expansion, the only issue with them as starter boxes was that they didn't include a character model unless you were willing to convert your own. Then the SC boxes started to make an appearance around AoS 1st Edition and 7th Edition 40K era, which had less units in them but included a character, for around the same price as the Battalion boxes, so in effect had the opposite pros and cons - great for starters, but not so good for army expansion unless you had an idea for converting your second iteration of that character model into something different.
The current Vanguard and Combat Patrol boxes embody the worst strategy yet - yes they give you more models than a SC box and give you a character model which the Battalion boxes didn't, but £85 is too much to spend at once for what you get, especially given that one used to be able to get entire boxed games for less.
I honestly think GW should have just released the SC boxes alongside the Battalion/Battleforce boxes rather than replaced one with the other, as the SC boxes were better for new players while the Battalion boxes were better for players wishing to expand their armies, and having both on offer would appeal to both those customer bases. Not to mention this is a way more customer-friendly strategy than the current one, as it gives customers the option of just buying one for a more affordable amount, or (Gods help their wallets) buy one of each to get a huge starter collection.
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