AoS Needing help with a list (New Player)

[Shane Barrett]

Hi, so I love the Seraphon and I have the Skink starter box with a Slann Starseer. I want to build an army with these in mind. I can change later on when I buy more units but I love the Slann and I love skinks and big Dinos so is there an army with these units in I can aim for?

Thank you!

 

[Nart]

Quoting myself from a neighbour thread:

I wouldn't search for something strong out of the SC box. It is only SC anyway. Some general rules:

- boltspitter and shield is still the best load out for skinks;
- bastiladon takes solar engine, no "ifs";
- terradons are probably still better with bolas.

To expand your force you will need at least one skink box, but you may go even with two more . Saurus start-collecting looks like a good idea to get carnosaur or troglodon. Stegdon is never a miss.

You also will need a priest or an astrolith bearer, or both.

 

[Tyranitar]

Quoting myself from a neighbour thread:

I wouldn't search for something strong out of the SC box. It is only SC anyway. Some general rules:

- boltspitter and shield is still the best load out for skinks;
- bastiladon takes solar engine, no "ifs";
- terradons are probably still better with bolas.

To expand your force you will need at least one skink box, but you may go even with two more . Saurus start-collecting looks like a good idea to get carnosaur or troglodon. Stegdon is never a miss.

You also will need a priest or an astrolith bearer, or both.

I've been thinking and I wonder if skinks are just better with boltspitters and clubs now, even more so if you're running a priest that gives +1 save. Reason being that their save is capped at +1 now and between the priest and AOD it's pretty easy to get to 5+ so the significantly better club melee attacks might be the better option, especially if you're running a Skink focused list where you want them to do the heavy lifting and buffing them up with a priest and starpriest. What are your thoughts on this?

 

[Nart]

What are your thoughts on this?

Single dedicated clubs blob always had a place and still has it. But for 10-model units you want a bit more survivablity, as with clubs you want get any effective melee anyway. This one 5+ can save you an objective or stop an enemy from getting into your ranks.

Also, don't forget that additional save stack gives shield skinks reduce rend by 1.

 

[Tyranitar]

Good point, so 10 strong screens would still be shield and jav/blowpipe, and if you're counting on skinks doing work then blowpipes and clubs in 30 Skink units is prob the way to go majority of the time

 

[Nart]

Don't forget that pipe+shield still have more reseliense against -1 rend and more. With, say, all out defense they will roll 5+ against -1 rend, while club guys will throw 6+. And that may be more important than it seems. Also there's a small hope that GW changes the wording of the shields. But it is a small one.

 

[Tyranitar]

Don't forget that pipe+shield still have more reseliense against -1 rend and more. With, say, all out defense they will roll 5+ against -1 rend, while club guys will throw 6+. And that may be more important than it seems. Also there's a small hope that GW changes the wording of the shields. But it is a small one.

Yeah if they change the wording on the shields that would make quite a difference. I guess when I'm saying "relying on skinks to do heavy lifting" I'm assuming you're pairing them with at least a priest so they will get his buff for run/shoot/charge and +1 save so bolt and clubs are at 5+ with that. Then if you have a 30 blob and need to ignore a rend you can AOD.

 

[Nart]

Then if you have a 30 blob and need to ignore a rend you can AOD.

Sure, but you could spend that AoD/MS somewhere else, like a pack of teleporting salamanders.