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AoS Need some help come up with a good tournament 1500 list that has special restrictions

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Hi, I need some inspiration for a 1500pt list for a tournament I'm going to attend. The tournament has some restictions for how you can build your list. I like to hear your ideas, I grateful for any advice. :)


These are the restrictions for list buildng:
1. Each warscroll can only be taken once (you can take two of the same battleline units if you only take those two and no other battleline units)
2. A unit can never larger than their start number of model (battleline units can be double their start number)
3. A unit can never cost more points than 30% of the total point value


This is a list I came up with. I tried it out earlier today against a Stonehorn spam and lost terribly. The biggest problem with this list is the lack of screening units and the low model count.

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Thunder Lizard

Leaders
Stegadon with Skink Chief (250)
- General
- Command Trait: Prime Warbeast
- Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
- Weapon: Sunfire Throwers (I would use the bow if I could, but its modelled with fire throwers)
Skink Priest (70)
- Artefact: Fusil of Conflaguration
Skink Starseer (140)
- Spell: Hand of Glory

Battleline
Stegadon (240)
- Weapon: Skystreak Bow
Stegadon (240)
- Weapon: Skystreak Bow

Units
3 x Kroxigor (140)

Behemoths
Bastiladon (220)
- Weapon: Solar Engine

Battalions
Thunderquake Temple-host (150)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 1500 / 1500
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 61
 
wouldn't a stone horn spam not meet the requirements? 1 of each war scroll?

The issue is that you've got no bodies You could just remove the bastiladon and extra CP and spend those points on a unit of knights and a unit of skinks.
You can make a lot of lists with just 1 of each warscroll, especially if skink heavy, by having 1 unit of skinks, 1 of salamanders, 1 of terradons etc.
Or you could give a saurus list a go. Slann/Kroak 10 guards, 10 knights 10 skinks. Then throw in some other heroes like starpriest and add a stegadon or salamander or something. there are so many options.

I would consider:

Kroak
Astrolith Bearer
Starpriest

10 Guard
10 Knights
10 skinks
20 warriors

Stegadon
 
Tav said:
wouldn't a stone horn spam not meet the requirements? 1 of each war scroll?
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You can have up to 4 stonehorns with these restrictions:
1 Frostlord, 1 huskard, 2 beastriders :eek:

What do you think of this list?


Allegiance: Seraphon
- Coalesced

Leaders
Lord Kroak (320)
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
Skink Oracle on Troglodon (220)
- General
- Command Trait: Nimble
- Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
- Spell: Fiery Convocation
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (230)

Battleline
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Knights (200)
- Lances

Units
1 x Razordon Hunting Pack (80)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)
Balewind Vortex (40)

Total: 1500 / 1500
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 81
 
MackiMac said:
You can have up to 4 stonehorns with these restrictions:
1 Frostlord, 1 huskard, 2 beastriders :eek:

What do you think of this list?


Allegiance: Seraphon
- Coalesced

Leaders
Lord Kroak (320)
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
Skink Oracle on Troglodon (220)
- General
- Command Trait: Nimble
- Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
- Spell: Fiery Convocation
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (230)

Battleline
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Knights (200)
- Lances

Units
1 x Razordon Hunting Pack (80)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)
Balewind Vortex (40)

Total: 1500 / 1500
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 81
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very low on bodies. Stonehorns get away with it by counting as 10 models but youll need more to spread out and grab objectives, at the very least just 2 10s of skinks.
I would lose the carnosaur, add 2 10s of skinks and maybe a salamander or a unit of knights/warriors.
The razordon isnt helping you either. Could go without the razordon and carnosaur.

kroak
Astrolith
Oracle

10 guard
10 knights
10 skinks
10 skinks
10 warriors
10 warriors

this gives you plenty of bodies to cover the board.
The goal would be to spread out, screen with skinks and capture objective while kroak does most of the heavy lifting through mortal wound spells
 
Tav said:
very low on bodies. Stonehorns get away with it by counting as 10 models but youll need more to spread out and grab objectives, at the very least just 2 10s of skinks.
I would lose the carnosaur, add 2 10s of skinks and maybe a salamander or a unit of knights/warriors.
The razordon isnt helping you either. Could go without the razordon and carnosaur.

kroak
Astrolith
Oracle

10 guard
10 knights
10 skinks
10 skinks
10 warriors
10 warriors

this gives you plenty of bodies to cover the board.
The goal would be to spread out, screen with skinks and capture objective while kroak does most of the heavy lifting through mortal wound spells
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I like the list, but it is sadly not legal in this format. I can only have two of the same battleline units if they are the only battleline units in the list.
 
MackiMac said:
I like the list, but it is sadly not legal in this format. I can only have two of the same battleline units if they are the only battleline units in the list.
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Ah okay
In that case A unit of 20 warriors Would be a good number of bodies. A starpriest would be excellent to go with the knights for buffs.

kroak
Astrolith
Oracle
Starpriest

10 guard
10 knights
20 warriors

Balewind
Bound gemenids
 
The TO changed some restrictions after he playtested the format.


Now you can chose one of these three when building the list:

1. Double one units starting models (battleline cannot do this like before, without picking this one)

2. Allowed two of the same unit

3. Pick one unit that cost more than 30%. But lose total points equal to what exceeds 30%. 30% of 1500 = 450. So if you pick a unit that cost 460pts, you will only be allowed to make a 1490pts list
 
Could this work?

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Coalesced

Leaders
Lord Kroak (320)
- Spell: Celestial Equilibrium
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
Skink Oracle on Troglodon (220)
- General
- Command Trait: Nimble
- Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
Knight-Incantor (120)
- Allies

Battleline
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Skinks (60)
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs
5 x Saurus Knights (100)
- Lances

Units
5 x Tree-Revenants (80)
- Allies

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)
Everblaze Comet (100)

Total: 1500 / 1500
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 200 / 200
Wounds: 83
 
Yeah that looks decent. You would get better use out of 5 extra knights than 5 extra guard though since the guard will mainly just be there to add wounds to kroak
 
Tav said:
Yeah that looks decent. You would get better use out of 5 extra knights than 5 extra guard though since the guard will mainly just be there to add wounds to kroak
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Good thinking, thats probably better :)
 
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