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AoS LVO Seraphon Battletome Reveal.

Sebbs said:
I haven't played AoS for a good two/three years. How big impact does these army specific scenery pieces have on game play?
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Quite heavily. The idoneth ones can zone out people and apply buffs/debuffs, the FEC ones allow them to summon more, Skaven give them the ability to move around the board if they wish, BoC buffs them and their summoning I believe, HoS he more summoning points, same for Khorne, Gnarlmaw is a debuffer, and OBR is a multi-tool that can be really annoying.
 
it really has been only a few that didn't matter. most notably (for me cuz I play them) the Fyreslayers. the buff is good, but too restrictive for competitive play.
 
So the rest of the art is a pretty faithful representation of one model or another...

What are we looking at behind the main Saurus?
It’s like a beefed up ‘standard’ from the top of a Carnosaur, but I can’t tell where in terms of depth it’s meant to be?
 
Someone a discord made an interesting observation
"Purely speculation, but the Warscroll Card Pack for Seraphon appears to be much larger than the amount of entries in their current battletome.

I would keep expectations in check though, it seems REALLY doubtful that they are getting 20 new units."
 
Sekrit_Stryker said:
Someone a discord made an interesting observation
"Purely speculation, but the Warscroll Card Pack for Seraphon appears to be much larger than the amount of entries in their current battletome.

I would keep expectations in check though, it seems REALLY doubtful that they are getting 20 new units."
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My guess is that, if we do have more warscrolls, it's because there will be separate cards for the "Coalesced" Seraphon. I agree with some other theories that the Coalesced will be better fighters, but give up summoning & teleporting.
 
Yeah, I was thinking that Coalesced are the ones that gained sentience from the slanns as they had been around so long and have become flesh and blood. So possible would lose the Daemon Keyword
 
Also a possibility that some scrolls are endless spells.

I could see these either being ‘old one tech’ instead OR being handpicked from existing spells. It wouldn’t be the first time GW took a ‘cheap filler’ move, as wood elves in WHFB just got the Dark and High elf lore cards smashed together...
 
Sekrit_Stryker said:
Someone a discord made an interesting observation
"Purely speculation, but the Warscroll Card Pack for Seraphon appears to be much larger than the amount of entries in their current battletome.

I would keep expectations in check though, it seems REALLY doubtful that they are getting 20 new units."
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Was the warscroll pack showed at LVO too or is that info from somewhere else?
 
Surely if there is a shipping tag we would expect something in the next month? They are hardly going to ship it and then have stock sitting in shops for an age. Feb, the month of the Seraphon
 
The pillars on the ziggurat are there to hold the portal up. So as long as you get creative, I see no reason why you can’t remove them yourself.
 
Jason839 said:
The pillars on the ziggurat are there to hold the portal up. So as long as you get creative, I see no reason why you can’t remove them yourself.
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As someone mentioned elsewhere that spawning pools would've been hard to sell since they're too easy to build on your own, I think this piece isn't all that hard to recreate either. Given, it will be a bigger and more involved project, but there's a considerable amount of "build your own Lizardmen ziggurat" YouTube vids out there (don't even have to include the lizzie tag either lol). The only "exciting" thing about this new terrain is the top part with the energy and "floaty" marble/gate bits which, in all honesty, I agree with the disappointed group; it could've been better.

What I'm trying to say is, I think the creative terrain builders out there will either take this and add their own spin to it, or come up with their own cool designs...I'd like to see an orrery made of a few gyroscopes looking thing atop a shorter ziggurat...but we'll have to wait for the rules (and pricing) to see if it'll be worth it!
 
Oh_Man said:
Not impressed not gonna lie. For starters the top part of the pyramid literally gives me kitbash vibes. Seconders I thought we were gonna get Endless Spells WTF. Third that rumour engine we were all hyped for turned out to be this:

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I just hope the battletome is worth it, yall...
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Ok, now I KNOW they’re just taunting us.

What I want, more than anything, is better rules and models for Saurus. They did it with STD. They even did it for BLOOD BOWL! It shouldn’t be that hard...
 
Sebbs said:
The base of the temple looks good: it got steps, it got vines, it got glyphs. Now I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth but the top part is ruefully dull.

The pillars/conduits looks like some sort half-hearted attempt of a kit bash from a standard (attached). The rest of the device/engine is fine but the overall look it's negated by the thin, wobbly looking pillars. Compared to previous releases from GW this just looks rushed.
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I wonder if there are diffferent configurations of pieces to use on the top. Optional pillars and glyphs, extra bricks, maybe a Slann dock..?
 
Hey I like that zoat! Its been a while since we have seen any of them around...

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I might get the new dude for Necromunda.

As far as the lizardy-stuff goes, the new battletome looks nice. Cover art is a nice nod to the TWW2 saurus artwork, so I am excited to see lots more Mesoamerican-themed artwork (I hope). Unlike most of the posts I have seen here I actually love the current saurus models, they were the first Warhammer models I ever bought (early 2000s-ish) and they have been my favorite unit ever since (I have four :D). If they make new ones I hope they are along the lines of what they did with our Temple Guard, love how those guys look. A new salamander/razordon kit would be pretty awesome too.

Terrain piece is underwhelming to me, compared to all the sigmarite and old Empire terrain sets out there. Barely taller than our current dinos. That pyramid doesn't even have enough room for the Slann and his temple guard to sit on top! Makes me want to go make some more out of foam...
 
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