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Just for laughs...

HeirofCarnage said:
I didn't ruin shit, so stop blaming me. Disney ruined Star Wars long before I posted this meme.:cool:
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It wasn’t Disney that ruined Star Wars - it was J.J. Abrams, the Sith Lord who is an obvious Original Trilogy fanatic.

And he’s about to mess up Episode 9 I imagine...
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
It wasn’t Disney that ruined Star Wars - it was J.J. Abrams, the Sith Lord who is an obvious Original Trilogy fanatic.

And he’s about to mess up Episode 9 I imagine...
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Disney did ruin the Star Wars franchise. They chose JJ to direct the movie, and then allowed to be released! Don't blame a serf for doing something that pleased his master.

They (Disney) then chose an even worse director for episode VIII and gave him the thumbs up on production.

If Disney didn't like the movies, the would have demanded that they be changed. They can do that after all, the are the money bags.
 
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HeirofCarnage said:
Disney did ruin the Star Wars franchise. They chose JJ to direct the movie, and then allowed to be released! Don't blame a serf for doing something that pleased his master.

They (Disney) then chose an even worse director for episode IIX and gave him the thumbs up on production.

If Disney didn't like the movies, the would have demanded that they be changed. They can do that after all, the are the money bags.
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I blame J.J. because he could have done something that was truly original but instead he just went for a glammed up remake of Episode IV because he is an Original Trilogy fanatic. You can see it in VII and in many things he says. He is a horrible, horrible man who likes to dwell in the past.

HeirofCarnage said:
Episode IIX was the worst episode in the entire saga!!!
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You’ve got your Roman Numerals wrong - it’s VIII not IIX. Also 8 was miles better than VII - Johnson took what was a bloated cliche-ridden mess (7) and turned it into something with an at least different story. True I didn’t like Leia not dying in space, but everything else was good. There were some cliche moments, but unlike Abrams who gave them the same outcome (the trench run, again!), Johnson changed the outcome of the events and their position in the film to give a much better story.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
That entire casino + horse racing/escape scene was terrible and completely unnecessary. Also, Rose was a horrible character, the worst in the sequel trilogy.
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Rose was OK - she shows if you’re a girl who wants to be a heroine in the Star Wars galaxy, you don’t have to be a fit brunette.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Johnson took what was a bloated cliche-ridden mess (7) and turned it into something with an at least different story. True I didn’t like Leia not dying in space, but everything else was good. There were some cliche moments, but unlike Abrams who gave them the same outcome (the trench run, again!), Johnson changed the outcome of the events and their position in the film to give a much better story.
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Johnson made every male character seem weak and/or incompetent, and all of the female characters strong and intelligent.

Poe- he is a "good" fighter, but is stupid and rash. He really needs a woman (or two, counting Leia) to keep him in check.

Luke- He is an asshole. (A funny asshole yes, but still an asshole) He is rude to Ray, and is generally useless. Sure he saves them in the end, but he still was rather useless when it comes to training Ray. He also made Kylo momma's boy Ren. Which makes him seem kinda stupid.

Fin- He is the best "manly" character we have. And even he, at the hight of his bravery and self sacrifice, was saved/derailed by a woman. And even he hangs on the skirts (trigger all feminazis) of Ray and *Stupid Female Character who they had to make Asian to stop claims that they were racist* Bose, was it?
 
And as for Rose, why couldn't they have let her and Fin die?

Fin dying felt right. It would have given the movie some weight. Instead of "God damn it! That Asian Bitch sabotaged his plan to save everyone, and probably doomed them all!"

It would have been "Wow. He really did love them. He laid down his life to save them."

I think it would have been a great ending, and I think it would have given a more plausible way of escape for the rebels.
 
HeirofCarnage said:
Johnson made every male character seem weak and/or incompetent, and all of the female characters strong and intelligent.

Poe- he is a "good" fighter, but is stupid and rash. He really needs a woman (or two, counting Leia) to keep him in check.

Luke- He is an asshole. (A funny asshole yes, but still an asshole) He is rude to Ray, and is generally useless. Sure he saves them in the end, but he still was rather useless when it comes to training Ray. He also made Kylo momma's boy Ren. Which makes him seem kinda stupid.

Fin- He is the best "manly" character we have. And even he, at the hight of his bravery and self sacrifice, was saved/derailed by a woman. And even he hangs on the skirts (trigger all feminazis) of Ray and *Stupid Female Character who they had to make Asian to stop claims that they were racist* Bose, was it?
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There is an ever-creeping influence of political correctness infecting the movies. I really hope they curb that trend or they could really ruin the franchise. Just write good characters for the sake of writing good characters, no matter what gender/race they are, but don't start trying to fill quotas and satisfy political agendas.

HeirofCarnage said:
And as for Rose, why couldn't they have let her and Fin die?

Fin dying felt right. It would have given the movie some weight. Instead of "God damn it! That Asian Bitch sabotaged his plan to save everyone, and probably doomed them all!"

It would have been "Wow. He really did love them. He laid down his life to save them."

I think it would have been a great ending, and I think it would have given a more plausible way of escape for the rebels.
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Agreed. She robbed the scene of any emotional weight. I really disliked her character throughout the entire movie.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
There is an ever-creeping influence of political correctness infecting the movies. I really hope they curb that trend or they could really ruin the franchise. Just write good characters for the sake of writing good characters, no matter what gender/race they are, but don't start trying to fill quotas and satisfy political agendas.


Agreed. She robbed the scene of any emotional weight. I really disliked her character throughout the entire movie.
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Why can I not like this 10 times?!?!?!

I absolutely HATE how politically correct the movies have become. I loved Star Wars. I watched them all the time (maybe not I or II:p) but I loved to watch them, and play them (when I was younger)

Now, I am actually considering not even watching episode 9. I hated the last two THAT MUCH!!:mad::bored::wtf::vomit:
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
That scene looked horrendously out of place.
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Forget out of place, try IMPOSSIBLE!!!!
I don't care how much "woman power" you have. You cannot survive the vacuum of space. It kills you instantly! Forget the lack of Oxygen, the amount of Radiation, combined with the temperature, would kill you instantly.

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That entire casino + horse racing/escape scene was terrible and completely unnecessary. Also, Rose was a horrible character, the worst in the sequel trilogy.[/QUOTE]

Rose is the worst character in the entire Star Wars franchise! Worse than Jar Jar! (some of you are like da fuk did he just say??????)

Hear me out. Jar Jar was moronic, but it was obvious. He wasn't played off as an "intelligent individual", whereas, Rose was. She was an emotional wreck of a woman, and a fool. NOT an intelligent powerful woman.

Jar Jar was there for comic relief (he was also annoying as all get out) Rose was there as a "Hero".:confused:

She wasn't. She was a liability. :eek::eek::eek:(#triggered feminazis)

And so, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case as to why Rose was worse than Jar Jar.
 
HeirofCarnage said:
I absolutely HATE how politically correct the movies have become
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Agreed. Movies like Star Wars have traditionally offered us the chance to escape reality and enjoy a classic battle between the forces of good and evil. Now it is becoming increasingly more difficult to do that. At least in the case of the worst offender, the new Ghostbusters, they finally seemed to pay a price for it. I have never been so happy to see a movie crash and burn. It's not that the cast of characters can't be diverse, its that it is so blatantly obvious as to what they are trying to. Personally, it breaks me out of the immersion of the story world.

HeirofCarnage said:
You cannot survive the vacuum of space. It kills you instantly! Forget the lack of Oxygen, the amount of Radiation, combined with the temperature, would kill you instantly.
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Actually, scientifically, you can survive in the vacuum of space for a very short period of time. One of the key points is to make sure you breath out all the air from your lungs before entering the vacuum. One of the first movies to explore this was 2001: A Space Odyssey. At first it received criticism for it, but its interpretation was eventually backed up and defended by scientists.

Don't mistake this as a defense for the Leia space scene. It was utter garbage.

HeirofCarnage said:
Rose is the worst character in the entire Star Wars franchise! Worse than Jar Jar! (some of you are like da fuk did he just say??????)

Hear me out. Jar Jar was moronic, but it was obvious. He wasn't played off as an "intelligent individual", whereas, Rose was. She was an emotional wreck of a woman, and a fool. NOT an intelligent powerful woman.

Jar Jar was there for comic relief (he was also annoying as all get out) Rose was there as a "Hero".:confused:

She wasn't. She was a liability. :eek::eek::eek:(#triggered feminazis)

And so, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case as to why Rose was worse than Jar Jar.
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I really dislike Rose, but Jar Jar is still by far my least favorite character. Your points are valid, but at least I can ignore Rose to some degree. Jar Jar is constantly in your face and detracts from every scene he is in. Either way, I hate them both.
 
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