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GW News: LAS VEGAS OPEN 2025

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
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Yes, I had to make sure I would be the one that posted these first, why do you ask?
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Enjoy your day in the sun. :) You've certainly waited long enough for it!


Imrahil said:
This next weekend is the release of the new Ironjawz stuff. I am stoked to see those models. Particularly the Maw-Grunta. It has 3 options, so lets see what I will be able to magnetize

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Grrr, !mrahil
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Crew on side-mounted howdahs... where have I seen that before?

https://www.lustria-online.com/thre...haos-dwarfs-challenge-67-9.20456/#post-210245

Canas said:
The individual models are completly fine, and for a warband this is perfectly acceptable. The sculpts are pretty, they have personality.
The issue for FS isn't so much with any individual model, as much as it is with the fact that everything is a naked angry dwarf with a mohawk, and thus everything looks similar.

The fact that one of the models in this warband stands out specificly because he doesn't have a mohawk speaks volumes about how similar FS models are.

And yeah, the warband is definitly much better than the average FS unit in terms of personality and uniqueness. But it's still just the bare minimum.
Take the female models, sure it's great that they've added them and it's better than nothing, but when it comes down to it the main difference with the other models is that they don't have a beard. It's not exactly groundbreaking, and from a distance you're barely going to be able to tell them apart.
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I agree with you. It's a very small improvement in the overall model diversity of the faction, but I suppose even a small improvement is better than none at all. As they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Karnus said:
I think the various “slayer” models looked absolutely fantastic and unique in the context of standing out from an otherwise pretty muted and standardised WHFB Dwarf army,

I, however, have to agree that a whole army of them doesn’t really get the juices flowing for me at least.
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This 100%

I feel the exact same way. In the context of the larger WHFB Dwarfs army, they were one of the coolest units / sub-factions. At some point I even thought they would have made for a great stand alone army, but in practice they turned out to be extremely underwhelming. Too much of the same.... plus, those runes look rather gaudy.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
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Honestly, what bothers me more than the outreagous prizes and arbitrary paywalling is what she mentions at the very start. Stuff becomes obsolete so absurdly fast, given the time investment needed to paint your new models, build a list, and then actually play a game.
Exorbitant prizes are awefull enouh on their own, but exorbitant prizes on rulebooks that go out of date by the time you've played a handfull of games is just silly.

It makes me curious how many games GW expects the average hobbyist to play before a new update hits.
 
Karnus said:
Games Workshop isn’t a little hobby company anymore. It’s a corporation.
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One of the main reasons why I am "pessimistic" about TOW. If the last couple of years are anything to go by, you simply can't trust GW. How many of these issues will be incorporated into the new game? The company that produced the game I love is long gone.

Canas said:
Honestly, what bothers me more than the outreagous prizes and arbitrary paywalling is what she mentions at the very start. Stuff becomes obsolete so absurdly fast, given the time investment needed to paint your new models, build a list, and then actually play a game.
Exorbitant prizes are awefull enouh on their own, but exorbitant prizes on rulebooks that go out of date by the time you've played a handfull of games is just silly.

It makes me curious how many games GW expects the average hobbyist to play before a new update hits.
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I couldn't agree more with you. Imagine buying those data cards, only for them to be completely invalidated 3 months later. It's always on to the bigger, newer and better thing. Sadly, I don't think we've hit rock bottom yet; things will get worse before they get better.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
One of the main reasons why I am "pessimistic" about TOW. If the last couple of years are anything to go by, you simply can't trust GW. How many of these issues will be incorporated into the new game? The company that produced the game I love is long gone.


I couldn't agree more with you. Imagine buying those data cards, only for them to be completely invalidated 3 months later. It's always on to the bigger, newer and better thing. Sadly, I don't think we've hit rock bottom yet; things will get worse before they get better.
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That YouTuber was correct though - they are constantly sold out. If people aren’t voting with their wallets then nothing will change.

Time will tell with TOW, I’m still excited.
 
Karnus said:
That YouTuber was correct though - they are constantly sold out. If people aren’t voting with their wallets then nothing will change.
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TBH, people are voting with their wallets.
Albeit in a very masochistic way.
 
Karnus said:
That YouTuber was correct though - they are constantly sold out. If people aren’t voting with their wallets then nothing will change.

Time will tell with TOW, I’m still excited.
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"Voting with your wallet" has rarely actually achieved much since you hold extremely little power.
Both in the sense that your individual vote simply doesn't hold much power when there are millions of potential customers, and also in the sense that predatory price nonsense is designed in such a way to manipulate people as much as possible.

Take this whole codex debacle. Even if all current players agreed it's overpriced, new or returning players won't know that, so there'll still be plenty of people to buy it. You can't reasonably expect those new players to be aware of the issues and vote "correctly".


Killer Angel said:
TBH, people are voting with their wallets.
Albeit in a very masochistic way.
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Meh, it's less that they're voting and more that they don't activly realize what's going on.
Or they are sensitive to these kind of manipulation strategies, and just can't resist for whatever reason.
Or they simply have more money than sense.
 
Could some part of it be "after market" dealers who buy up datacards/books/minis to resell on their online store or on eBay.

To that point, though, datacards are the most trivial of purchases. Maybe newer Warhammer players don't know that GW updates/changes info often.
 
Karnus said:
That YouTuber was correct though - they are constantly sold out. If people aren’t voting with their wallets then nothing will change.
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+1

Exactly, GW has no reason to change. In fact, they incentive to hold their current course or even make things worse.

Canas said:
"Voting with your wallet" has rarely actually achieved much since you hold extremely little power.
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Bud Light and Gillette would disagree.

Canas said:
Take this whole codex debacle. Even if all current players agreed it's overpriced, new or returning players won't know that, so there'll still be plenty of people to buy it. You can't reasonably expect those new players to be aware of the issues and vote "correctly".
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Except, who's getting new players into the hobby? In my experience, most people who enter the hobby do so because someone they knew got them into it. There are of course exceptions, but I'd wager most people are brought into it by a family member or friend who is already engaged in the hobby.

Killer Angel said:
TBH, people are voting with their wallets.
Albeit in a very masochistic way.
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Agreed.

Luckily for me, I don't really need GW at this point.
 
So, there is a new dwarf in town....

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Not quite my favorite. I don't get why they picked such a new faction to celebrate their 40th anniversary.
Misted opportunity to do something cool, if you ask me.

Grrr, !mrahil
 
Imrahil said:
So, there is a new dwarf in town....

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Not quite my favorite. I don't get why they picked such a new faction to celebrate their 40th anniversary.
Misted opportunity to do something cool, if you ask me.

Grrr, !mrahil
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That face reminds me of the old Garbage Pail Kids from way back in the day.

Awful.
 
Imrahil said:
So, there is a new dwarf in town....

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Not quite my favorite. I don't get why they picked such a new faction to celebrate their 40th anniversary.
Misted opportunity to do something cool, if you ask me.

Grrr, !mrahil
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To be honest it's a nice change from the awful Stormcast, Primaris or Vampires they usually churn out for these sorts of celebrations, and it's good to see they haven't forgotten the Votann after their first release. I'll be interested to see what GW come up with for their second wave (if only to see if I can get any closer to proxying a Votann army with Mantic's Forge Fathers :p).

I'll agree that the bare head is a pretty bad sculpt (the main flaw with the Votann as a whole - their faces in particular aren't Dwarfy enough and are rarely sculpted well), but the model can be given one of two helmeted heads which look significantly better (and continue to poke fun at Blizzard's StarCraft Terrans). Interesting that they've chosen a stag as the animal head on the crest of this one, stags aren't normally associated with Dwarfs, or Vikings as a whole (they're much more associated with Celtic symbolism).
 
Imrahil said:
So, there is a new dwarf in town....

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Not quite my favorite. I don't get why they picked such a new faction to celebrate their 40th anniversary.
Misted opportunity to do something cool, if you ask me.

Grrr, !mrahil
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half-helmet looks the best by far, it’s giving strong StarCraft Terran vibes this one. Needs a cigar…”Hell, it’s about time…”

also good to see GW doing something that isn’t a space marine.
 
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