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GW News: LAS VEGAS OPEN 2025

Just A Skink said:
You know, as much as I like seeing the development of the TOW, I can't help but feel it now relates to one of my other loves, Star Wars. TOW is shaping up to be "nostalgia porn", kind of like Rogue One or the Mandalorian. GW knows that bringing back the Old World tugs on the heartstrings/nostalgia of the "old" fanbase.
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That's a great point on the Mandalorian. The story is pretty basic and mediocre (especially in season 2), but it has achieved a huge amount of success due to nostalgia and Original Trilogy fan service (with some good looking visuals too). Nostalgia is a powerful tool, but I don't think TOW can rely purely on it as the Mandalorian has. Here's hoping that GW can balance solid game mechanics while staying true to the world that was (both story wise and in terms of the actual game itself).
 
Just A Skink said:
I have to imagine that it's all new (probably resin) sculpts.
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NIGHTBRINGER said:
Of course not... GW wants you to buy new ones... preferably at Forge World prices!
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Yeah, you’re probably right, even though that would suck. The same fate will probably befall Tomb Kings if they are even in the game at all :sour:

Good job I haven’t chosen either of these to be my 6th army...
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
That's a great point on the Mandalorian. The story is pretty basic and mediocre (especially in season 2), but it has achieved a huge amount of success due to nostalgia and Original Trilogy fan service (with some good looking visuals too). Nostalgia is a powerful tool, but I don't think TOW can rely purely on it as the Mandalorian has. Here's hoping that GW can balance solid game mechanics while staying true to the world that was (both story wise and in terms of the actual game itself).
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+1

As gone over.
 
Killer Angel said:
It's not that Star Wars - a new hope, has this great story...
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Sorry, I have a bad tendency to sidetrack threads. We even have a whole Star Wars thread elsewhere on the forums. Obviously, my main comparison is that now that the Warhammer Fantasy world is the "World that Was", it's similar to any past/nostalgic thing (and I just chose SW as a popular example). Despite rules, GW will probably draw in a certain amount, or a certain kind, of fans just due to the love for this setting. But I totally agree that it will only keep them if the game is satisfying to play.

EDIT: But, I also tend to believe that it will have all new minis and fans may not be able to use old minis. How else is GW going to make $$ off of it otherwise?
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
It's the classic hero's journey. When joined by episodes V and VI they tell a pretty great story.
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And there's nothing wrong with it, it's a classical neverending trope. But it's a pretty simple structure, so if the Mandalorian's story is "basic" i cannot consider it a negative point.
A story can proceed in a straightforward way... it's how you tell it that matters.


Just A Skink said:
Sorry, I have a bad tendency to sidetrack threads. We even have a whole Star Wars thread elsewhere on the forums.
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LOL i was forgetting this is about ToW. :p
 
Just A Skink said:
Sorry, I have a bad tendency to sidetrack threads. We even have a whole Star Wars thread elsewhere on the forums. Obviously, my main comparison is that now that the Warhammer Fantasy world is the "World that Was", it's similar to any past/nostalgic thing (and I just chose SW as a popular example). Despite rules, GW will probably draw in a certain amount, or a certain kind, of fans just due to the love for this setting. But I totally agree that it will only keep them if the game is satisfying to play.
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My guess is they haven't even started figuring that out.

Hopefully they're aware of the fact that they need to do some SERIOUSLY hard work to actually make TOW a viable upgrade to 8th edition IMHO. They surely must be aware of the fact that, even just from a financial viewpoint, there is a considerable niche for a higher intelligence, more in-depth strategy and larger scale game.

But then again, probably not. I should probably stop kidding myself.
 
Killer Angel said:
And there's nothing wrong with it, it's a classical neverending trope. But it's a pretty simple structure, so if the Mandalorian's story is "basic" i cannot consider it a negative point.
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Well the Mandalorian Season 2 story is significantly more simple. To the point where it feels like a repeating string of video game side quests.

That said, I still enjoyed it. Nostalgia!
 
Killer Angel said:
https://www.warhammer-community.com...mple-the-decadent-delights-2021-has-in-store/

What an impressive model! That thing is glorious...

In the video we can see also 40k new stuff, but i cannot spot any nids.
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I mean, awesome model. But how much new stuff exactly is Slaanesh going to get? This is what, the 8th or 9th new unit? There's entire factions that have to make due with less, and they get it as an update about 1.5 years after their first battletome.

Also, does this mean Tzeentch & Nurgle will get a decent mortal update as well? Cuz those two are starting too look rather poor in the mortal department compared to Slaanesh & Khorne at this point.

And based on that video, Lumineth is getting an update as well. Which is a bit odd, given that that is also a rather recent faction. Another horse, and what appears to be the monkey king but wearing lumineth armour.

Also, the first look at that new undead faction they keep hinting at with rumour engines. The vampir-y one with ornate sabres. Might even have a vampire-hunter kind of vibe. One of those models appears to be carrying stakes. Which at least seems somewhat promising, might actually be opposed to Nagash then.
 
Killer Angel said:
https://www.warhammer-community.com...mple-the-decadent-delights-2021-has-in-store/

What an impressive model! That thing is glorious...
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Gloriously horrible you mean. Those fat things that take up front and centre are hideous and more suited toward Nurgle.

And I thought GW had given us enough BS on Christmas Day...
Killer Angel said:
In the video we can see also 40k new stuff, but i cannot spot any nids.
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Yeah, that sucks big time. Wouldn’t be surprised if GW torment us by putting us last and then giving us a subpar release

Canas said:
I mean, awesome model. But how much new stuff exactly is Slaanesh going to get? This is what, the 8th or 9th new unit? There's entire factions that have to make due with less, and they get it as an update about 1.5 years after their first battletome.
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I’m bloody annoyed about Slaanesh getting so much new stuff and being made the poster boys/girls/things of the new year. It’s not like they need or deserve it given they’re still strong in the AoS meta.

Canas said:
Also, does this mean Tzeentch & Nurgle will get a decent mortal update as well? Cuz those two are starting too look rather poor in the mortal department compared to Slaanesh & Khorne at this point.
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Please no, not when there are other factions that need reinforcements more (Fyreslayers specifically). I want to see some Dwarfs! It’s ages since we’ve had any Dwarfs!

Canas said:
And based on that video, Lumineth is getting an update as well. Which is a bit odd, given that that is also a rather recent faction. Another horse, and what appears to be the monkey king but wearing lumineth armour.
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That’s what I saw. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a character because Lumineth actually only have a couple of unnamed character models, but come on GW, there are other factions that need attention more right now (see above).
Canas said:
Also, the first look at that new undead faction they keep hinting at with rumour engines. The vampir-y one with ornate sabres. Might even have a vampire-hunter kind of vibe. One of those models appears to be carrying stakes. Which at least seems somewhat promising, might actually be opposed to Nagash then.
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Where was that? Death was mentioned at the end of the trailer, but I couldn’t see anything particularly Undead-oriented. I saw a figure in black robes with a bronze shield but that didn’t look Undead.

I’m interested in who that chap riding the puff of wind is. Is he Lumineth or the first Malekith Elf?
 
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I like the model, and love having something Slaanesh focusing on some form of excess other then sex.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Gloriously horrible you mean. Those fat things that take up front and centre are hideous and more suited toward Nurgle.
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Mwha, I actually like that they're going the Gluttony route with this model. It's nice to see a follower of Slaanesh who's excess isn't just based on torture and fallic shapes.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Please no, not when there are other factions that need reinforcements more (Fyreslayers specifically). I want to see some Dwarfs! It’s ages since we’ve had any Dwarfs!
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To be honest, I'd love an update to the mortal side of Tzeentch. Right now it's a fairly incoherent mess with virtually no inherent synergies to speak off. It's just a random collection of units. It'd be nice if there was at least some semblance of coherency and synergy.

Admittadly, they don't need it for the power.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Where was that? Death was mentioned at the end of the trailer, but I couldn’t see anything particularly Undead-oriented. I saw a figure in black robes with a bronze shield but that didn’t look Undead.
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His axe and cloak are tattered, which generally only happens with the undeath in Warhammer.

And his skin/nails/mouth fit with a frankenstein corpes. Bit green, decayed. Reminds me of creepy gravekeepers in old cartoons.



Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I’m interested in who that chap riding the puff of wind is. Is he Lumineth or the first Malekith Elf?
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Lumineth, he wears the same kind of armour and tools. Same painting scheme as well.
 

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