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GW News: LAS VEGAS OPEN 2025

IMHO, the best thing we can do to ensure that the Lizardmen, Skaven, VC, and other core factions get added to the game is to play them, preferably in store. Buy the rulebook and start playing. Show GW that there is significant interest in the game. Also, tournament legal primarily means at GW. Your local tournament can allow them if the TO says so. I suspect that most local tournaments will allow them.
 
Padre said:
IMHO, the best thing we can do to ensure that the Lizardmen, Skaven, VC, and other core factions get added to the game is to play them, preferably in store. Buy the rulebook and start playing. Show GW that there is significant interest in the game.
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...or play a game that already has them fully included.


I happen to know of one. :cool:
 
So what is up with the Pre-Orders being sold out? I would have believed the whole point of pre-orders was to gauge how many box sets to produce. How big follow-on production runs should be?

I followed a link on Monday(?) checked it just four days later it says Temporarily OOStock(?)
 
pendrake said:
So what is up with the Pre-Orders being sold out? I would have believed the whole point of pre-orders was to gauge how many box sets to produce. How big follow-on production runs should be?

I followed a link on Monday(?) checked it just four days later it says Temporarily OOStock(?)
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Scalpers be scalping, yo!

Jokes aside, while I can't say I'm surprised by GW being short-stocked on new releases anymore, I really wish they'd figure out that pre-orders should be about determining how much initial stock they need to make for customers and not this limited-run early-bird crap.

Hell, you could extend that to the rest of their business model! There's really no reason for GW to force customers to put money down on a given product when and only when it's in stock.
 
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NIGHTBRINGER said:
"Those lucky enough to attend the Warhammer: The Old World launch event at Warhammer World in Nottingham this weekend will get the first look at the next army due for release!"

Any guesses?

Fingers crossed for some Wood Elves.
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I saw some folks on reddit guessing Dwarfs based on the leaked dice.
 
Padre said:
IMHO, the best thing we can do to ensure that the Lizardmen, Skaven, VC, and other core factions get added to the game is to play them, preferably in store. Buy the rulebook and start playing. Show GW that there is significant interest in the game. Also, tournament legal primarily means at GW. Your local tournament can allow them if the TO says so. I suspect that most local tournaments will allow them.
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BOLS suggested that the reason some of these armies are not getting the TOW treatment is because they have already had the AOS treatment.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
"Those lucky enough to attend the Warhammer: The Old World launch event at Warhammer World in Nottingham this weekend will get the first look at the next army due for release!"

Any guesses?
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Krox_v.2 said:
I saw some folks on reddit guessing Dwarfs based on the leaked dice.
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NIGHTBRINGER said:
I suppose that is the best lead we have at the moment.
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That's my best guess, and what I'm hoping for. It should either be Dawi or their long-time enemies, da Greenskinz.

Krox_v.2 said:
My honest thought is that on one hand, it's neat they're releasing unreleased minis for TOW, on the other hand, they're releasing THIS unreleased mini for TOW.
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NIGHTBRINGER said:
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Not my cup of tea.
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I've certainly seen a lot worse sculpts, from that era and newer. I think he's pretty good myself, and of course it's great to hear that other models that had greens made but not moulds could be in the pipeline too.

WildColonial Boy said:
BOLS suggested that the reason some of these armies are not getting the TOW treatment is because they have already had the AOS treatment.
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Sounds incorrect to me, Warriors of Chaos had a big AoS model update last year and yet are in both games.
 
WildColonial Boy said:
We got the TREATMENT years ago....
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Legion of Azgorh?

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I've certainly seen a lot worse sculpts, from that era and newer. I think he's pretty good myself, and of course it's great to hear that other models that had greens made but not moulds could be in the pipeline too.
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I can't see too many units of that model being sold.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Sounds incorrect to me, Warriors of Chaos had a big AoS model update last year and yet are in both games.
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Could it be an issue of compatibility then? The WoC AoS update is compatible with ToW, while the others might not be.

Or perhaps you simply can't have a Warhammer fantasy game without a Warriors of Chaos army. They are extremely integral to the setting.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
Could it be an issue of compatibility then? The WoC AoS update is compatible with ToW, while the others might not be.
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I doubt it, I would actually say, ignoring new characters for both, the new Vampire range, for example, has more compatible models than the new Warriors of Chaos range has (the Ogroid models for instance have little use in a Warhammer Fantasy Chaos Warrior army, they are far too big and bulky to reflect Chaos Ogres and can't pass off as anything else) and yet one has been sidelined while the other has not.

NIGHTBRINGER said:
Or perhaps you simply can't have a Warhammer fantasy game without a Warriors of Chaos army. They are extremely integral to the setting.
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Possibly, but there would also be many advocates of the notion that Vampires are equally as integral.

I honestly think that, while part of the decision-making was based on preserving those factions that have been booted out from AoS (which is why Bretonnians and Tomb Kings have been put in biggest focus thus far, and why High Elves are still in the game despite living miles away from the Old World), other decisions as to which factions were to be included were simply arbitrary ones, perhaps made on-the-fly, as to which factions the design team wanted to focus on when getting TOW off the ground and which ones they were happy to shelve for the known future. That's the best explanation I can think of.

Something of note, though, is how there are some special rules and lore snippets that relate to non-focus factions in the rulebook - I've read at least one piece of lore on the Lizardmen (referring to the Geomantic Web), and at least one universal special rule specifically designed for Daemons. It's be a daft idea to include these titbits for these factions and then just exclude them indefinitely.

I definitely think there must be some sort of long-term plan here that we just don't know about yet, quite possibly dependent on how the game and it's models sell.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Possibly, but there would also be many advocates of the notion that Vampires are equally as integral.
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I strongly disagree with the notion that the VC are as integral as the WoC. Chaos are the big bad of Warhammer fantasy, while the VC are more of a fringe faction. The main threat to the old world (and especially to the Empire, who a liken to a viewpoint character) is, has been and will always be Chaos. Someone in TOW needs to carry the Chaos banner and the Beastmen don't cut it (for the record, either would the Chaos Dwarfs, in fact, even less so). Excluding the WoC in Warhammer fantasy would be like excluding the Chaos Space Marines in 40k.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I definitely think there must be some sort of long-term plan here that we just don't know about yet, quite possibly dependent on how the game and it's models sell.
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If they do have something in the works, then it was a massive error to openly cast aside the other factions. I think a fair number of people may have been turned off by that decision. On a personal note, it was an instant game killer for me. The second I read that, I knew that TOW was not for me.
 
Remastered classic models for TOW...

https://www.warhammer-community.com...ck-the-art-of-remastering-classic-miniatures/


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