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GW News: LAS VEGAS OPEN 2025

Cristhian MLR said:
Skaven have those hiddeous Ogre Rats. Wonder why they never worried with making the ones from Blood Isle available: the current kit is atrocious in all the worst possible ways.
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Because the current kit has customisable weapon arms - the Island of Blood ones are monopose and if you have more than two can only be made to look different if you want to saw off arms and hands and replace them with different ones. I’ve managed to do this with the four I have but mainly because I had some spare weapon hands from the Middle Earth Mordor Troll kit and had found a couple of spare Ogre clubs at my favourite shop which sells second-hand miniatures and bitz
 
Ok, the new boxes are out, and I was right. Everyone had exactly what the box showed. Aside the Rat Ogors, the Skaven came with 20 Clan Rats. Too bad the Ogors part is so heinous.

Still, everyone has good savings deals for the price.

And, we now have out own Metawatch, and as The Great Plan demanded, we are one of the dominating forces.

And and, 40K will have their Start Collecting! kits with the new Combat Patrols:

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According to Dakka², this kits are indeed replacements for the previous 40K SC!, and there are no plans expected for now.for AoS.

What do you think? Rebranding the sets for 40K maybe unnecesary, or maybe they tink the exclamation point was silly.

Combat Patrols will come out for a good chunk of the 40K factions (fingers crossed for all of them. Imagine discounted Custodes!).

This is are still cool news, but it is possible a slight increase on prices. It makes me worried about certain kits. The Tau one is a bestseller and the best 40K-exclusive SC!, and it is already a perfect kit, they only really have to rename it; at much just trade the Ethereal for a Cadre Fireblade. Change something like the XV8 Crisis suits for something else could arguably be a loss for the kit.
 
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Cristhian MLR said:
And, we now have out own Metawatch, and as The Great Plan demanded, we are one of the dominating forces.
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Just a pity it had to be stupid Skink spam that’s dominant. Saurus meta for the win!

However it pleases me to see Kharadron are top and Fyreslayers are fourth, and I’m surprised that Slaanesh has dropped like a stone as they were crazily powerful when they first came out, and Idoneth are holding out well, which is a surprise as they now have one of the oldest tomes.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Just a pity it had to be stupid Skink spam that’s dominant. Saurus meta for the win!

However it pleases me to see Kharadron are top and Fyreslayers are fourth, and I’m surprised that Slaanesh has dropped like a stone as they were crazily powerful when they first came out, and Idoneth are holding out well, which is a surprise as they now have one of the oldest tomes.
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Idoneth are a natural counter to shooting armies, which they also mention in the article, KO, Tzeentch, Seraphon, CoS & the better performing SCE lists all have a strong shooting focus. And those are 5 out of the top 6. That probably works heavily in their favour :p

I have to admit it surprises me Slaanesh is doing so poorly though. I guess that with the top contenders being so shooting focussed the ability to fight out of order simply isn't that relevant. I mean who cares about melee if half your army gets shot to bits before ever getting there. And without that ability they lose a significant chunk of their combat prowess.

I do miss an average performance though. It's just "top five" and "first". It's a bit of a weird metric like this.
 
Canas said:
Idoneth are a natural counter to shooting armies, which they also mention in the article, KO, Tzeentch, Seraphon, CoS & the better performing SCE lists all have a strong shooting focus. And those are 5 out of the top 6. That probably works heavily in their favour :p
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It says something about Fyreslayer resilience that they are the only one of that top 6 that are not missile oriented, yet they still managed to reach fourth! :D
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
It would seem that the fortunes have changed for the Kharadron Overlords! And here I was thinking that they were one of the weakest factions!
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I thought they were weaker too given the reviews of the more recent Battletome when it was released, but I'm pleased to see they've flown to the top (in their airships)!

But then, Dwarfs are obviously the superior race in Warhammer, I've said it many times before :p
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
It would seem that the fortunes have changed for the Kharadron Overlords! And here I was thinking that they were one of the weakest factions!
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The new battletome seems to have helped KO a lot.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I thought they were weaker too given the reviews of the more recent Battletome when it was released, but I'm pleased to see they've flown to the top (in their airships)!

But then, Dwarfs are obviously the superior race in Warhammer, I've said it many times before :p
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Why were people annoyed at it though? I don't remember any of their new stuff being particularly weak or weird.
 
Canas said:
Why were people annoyed at it though? I don't remember any of their new stuff being particularly weak or weird.
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No idea, I just remember seeing people saying that Kharadron weren't improved much at the time the new tome came out. What we see from Metawatch, however, is proof to the contrary.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I thought they were weaker too given the reviews of the more recent Battletome when it was released, but I'm pleased to see they've flown to the top (in their airships)!

But then, Dwarfs are obviously the superior race in Warhammer, I've said it many times before :p
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they where weak at the start then GW came in and dropped all their points by 50 or more. with a extra 300 points to play with they are doing much better and can feild 2-3 ships with crew insted of the original 1
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
No idea, I just remember seeing people saying that Kharadron weren't improved much at the time the new tome came out. What we see from Metawatch, however, is proof to the contrary.
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Yeah, i have both the battletomes and the new one isn't that great of an improvement... but their shooting is solid and the points dropped.
 
meh.. not a fan of how those books have warscrolls and such. It's a pain to figure out which books have relevant warscrolls, let alone keep up with all of them. Aside from that, not sure what to expect, it's not like psychic awakening or malign portents where the title gave a good hint as to what kinda rules we were going to get.

On A sidenote, why exactly does anyone trust Morathi? All the audience ever sees of her is a saterday morning cartoon villain. They should show her actually doing something that'd explain why the SCE and such even vaguely trust her. It's difficult to suspend your disbelief and pretend she can actually hide her schemes when all we ever see her do is monologue and cackle.
 
Killer Angel said:
It seems that AoS will have it's own version of the psychic awakening...

https://ageofsigmar.com/broken-realms/
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Ah, yes, I certainly thought it was going to be a prelude to a Third Edition given that GW were saying ‘big things are happening’, and you linking this up to Psychic Awakening pretty much confirms it, what with various factions getting new rules and all.

Canas said:
meh.. not a fan of how those books have warscrolls and such. It's a pain to figure out which books have relevant warscrolls, let alone keep up with all of them. Aside from that, not sure what to expect, it's not like psychic awakening or malign portents where the title gave a good hint as to what kinda rules we were going to get.

On A sidenote, why exactly does anyone trust Morathi? All the audience ever sees of her is a saterday morning cartoon villain. They should show her actually doing something that'd explain why the SCE and such even vaguely trust her. It's difficult to suspend your disbelief and pretend she can actually hide her schemes when all we ever see her do is monologue and cackle.
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Yeah, I agree, given the Daughters of Khaine in general are ruthless, treacherous, bloodthirsty muderesses, I always thought they were more fitting as a Chaos army than an Order army, given that Khaine is extremely similar to Khorne. Why do the other Order factions even give them house room?

Of course it’s damn typical of GW giving Daughters of Khaine the first book with especially OP rules for them, I should have known that GW wouldn’t like them being near-bottom for long.

However, I’m interested to see the book or books that Kharadron and Fyreslayers feature in. I’d love to see a Broken Realms: Grimnir, where the Fyreslayers manage to find enough Ur-Gold and rebuild Grimnir and he becomes a suitably massive god model, or gives them some reinforcement units or something.
 
Interesting to see them bringing a regular Dark Elf Sorceress on Black Dragon to the spotlight. Wonder what this will mean...
 
Cristhian MLR said:
Interesting to see them bringing a regular Dark Elf Sorceress on Black Dragon to the spotlight. Wonder what this will mean...
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I’m thinking Morathi will try and unite all the Dark Elves under her banner. Not only would the Dark Elf models fit better there than with Cities of Sigmar but would also give Daughters of Khaine more variety in their units.
 
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Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I’m thinking Marathi will try and unite all the Dark Elves under her banner. Not only would the Dark Elf models fit better there than with Cities of Sigmar but would also give Daughters of Khaine more variety in their units.
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meh I'd sooner expect it to just be a narrative device, this way both sides of the story get to have creepy dark elves who are less than entirely honest. Fits with the whole mirror-thing Morathi went on about. Allows you to contrast the old elves against the relativly new DoK.
 
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