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AoS Dracotian's tail 2000pt

I am no experienced general with firelance but I doubt that this size of knights will ever get to hit more than 75%. I d also say to take off 5 knights for 1 saurus scar vet on cold one - I would probably also make him the general as the reroll 1 on Charge is huge for them. Retool 1 to hit will also come in handy because I doubt astrolith would be around most of the times for the rerolls !
 
Seraphage said:
I am no experienced general with firelance but I doubt that this size of knights will ever get to hit more than 75%. I d also say to take off 5 knights for 1 saurus scar vet on cold one - I would probably also make him the general as the reroll 1 on Charge is huge for them. Retool 1 to hit will also come in handy because I doubt astrolith would be around most of the times for the rerolls !
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not bad idea, but i pref general ora scar vet, whit +3 or +4 is easy charge, the plane is teleport the slann and engine for flank my opponent and summon alf army, i summon or teleporth the astrolith so i don't need the retool 1 to hit. i think but not bad idea i can try
 
Ye try it and tell us the result with a battlereport please ! :rolleyes:

Remember : The summoning of the batallion does count as spells. So you only have 3 - whether them be summons or spells of slann that turn !
 
Seraphage said:
Ye try it and tell us the result with a battlereport please ! :rolleyes:

Remember : The summoning of the batallion does count as spells. So you only have 3 - whether them be summons or spells of slann that turn !
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sorry i don't understand, whit battalion i can summon scar vet, knight, astrolith in the some round and after do 3 spell correct?
the list is not bad, i'm boring by the Kroak Hell, i try other 2000 point list like this, i kill a stardrake easy whit this list.
And sorry for my bad english T.T i'm italian. i would write battle reports but my english is very bad :( (whit my frends we do several game like 2 v 2, tournament and siedge game)
 
Unfortunately no ! These are spells exactly like the rest, with all the spell limitations of range included AND count as spells. So if you summon 1 knight unit and astrolith bearer from batallion, only 1 spell left to be cast that turn !
 
Seraphage said:
Unfortunately no ! These are spells exactly like the rest, with all the spell limitations of range included AND count as spells. So if you summon 1 knight unit and astrolith bearer from batallion, only 1 spell left to be cast that turn !
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np is not a real problem, the summon are good in the first turn only, flank the enermy whit 60% of the army is real good, i use the ability too obtain the first turn and flank the enemy, in my game i don't need too spell ( i fail all of them, yes all the time 3 or less). i summon knight scar vet and astro and charge, i destroy 5 liberators and 10 sigmar archer.
 
Seraphage said:
Unfortunately no ! These are spells exactly like the rest, with all the spell limitations of range included AND count as spells. So if you summon 1 knight unit and astrolith bearer from batallion, only 1 spell left to be cast that turn !
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Are you sure this is the case? The text says he can cast as many summoning spells as he wants, it never says that any count against his total spells cast. Was there a FAQ I missed on it?

I think the battalion needs 2-3 FAQ's on it honestly just to clear up some of these issues. The unit size you can summon is another one.
 
Drofnum said:
Are you sure this is the case? The text says he can cast as many summoning spells as he wants, it never says that any count against his total spells cast. Was there a FAQ I missed on it?

I think the battalion needs 2-3 FAQ's on it honestly just to clear up some of these issues. The unit size you can summon is another one.
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It says "as many as he wants as long as it is from different batallions / bullets" and there are only 3 different ! It covers the restriction when describes the summoning as NORMAL spells that just don't have to roll for and cannot be unbinded !
 
"In the hero phase, Kuoteq can cast any number of summon spells that summon Saurus units to the battlefield, as long as each unit comes from this battalion. --- However, each spell that he casts must summon a different unit chosen from a different warscroll."

The units you can have in the battalion are: Slann, Firelance host, Any number of additional Seraphon units.

So, with that wording I can summon a Scar vet on cold one, scar vet on carno, saurus warriors, saurus knights, Sunblood, Temple guard (and more but you get the point) in a single round so long as I state before the game that they are all in the battalion, which they all can be. So according the wording on the battalion I can definitely surpass the 3 spells that my Slann gets, maybe the summons count against his total spells but maybe not since I can already go over them. Its completely unclear in my opinion.
 
Hmm.. you are right about that.. I am confused now haha :confused:
 
Yeah, that's why I think they need to put out a FAQ for that battalion. There are too many questions that pop up when you talk about using it which is just super frustrating.
 
Drofnum said:
Yeah, that's why I think they need to put out a FAQ for that battalion. There are too many questions that pop up when you talk about using it which is just super frustrating.
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I asked on their Facebook page. I suggest everyone does so - the more often they are asked the more likely the rules team are to notice and FAQ it.
 
Done. Hopefully we get some answers eventually!
 
Tokek said:
I asked on their Facebook page. I suggest everyone does so - the more often they are asked the more likely the rules team are to notice and FAQ it.
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Done!

The way my friends and I were understanding this, is that the free summons do not count as normal casting attempts, so the slann can still do his 3 spells per turn as long as the summoned units come from the batallion.

IMHO that's what makes the most sense for this batallion, otherwise it just doesn't offer much but hey, weirder things have happened in the past ;)
 
U write allegiance is order and take relic blade Its in order artefact then u cant teleport and take seraphon command trait and artefact with both
 
jaggred said:
U write allegiance is order and take relic blade Its in order artefact then u cant teleport and take seraphon command trait and artefact with both
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I write wrong, obv seraphon allegiance
 
Xasto said:
Done!

The way my friends and I were understanding this, is that the free summons do not count as normal casting attempts, so the slann can still do his 3 spells per turn as long as the summoned units come from the batallion.

IMHO that's what makes the most sense for this batallion, otherwise it just doesn't offer much but hey, weirder things have happened in the past ;)
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Let's hope the ll answer fast !
 
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