AoS Dracothian's Tail for local GT

[Jason839]

I was thinking of that too, but I was also thinking that the Guard should do their job and protect the Slann therefore I would not need the pendant on him. If the Slann seems to be in danger I can summon more Guard to help him or summon 10 skinks to screen enemies from him. It's a hard choice.

Its better to be safe than sorry. Some people have enough damage to kill the guard and then the slann turn 1.

 

[Jason839]

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Dracothion's Tail
- Grand Strategy: Predator's Domain
- Triumphs: Bloodthirsty

Leaders
Slann Starmaster (265)*
- General
- Command Trait: Ancient Knowledge
- Artefact: Godbeast Pendant
- Ancient Knowledge 2nd Spell: Celestial Apotheosis
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Skink Priest (80)*
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Guidance
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (150)**

Battleline
10 x Skinks (75)*
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (75)*
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
5 x Saurus Guard (115)*

Units
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1

Behemoths
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)*
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)**

Endless Spells & Invocations
The Burning Head (20)

Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
**Battle Regiment

Total: 1970 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 103
Drops: 2

I may try this 2 drop dt list that seems pretty brutal. Double bastiladons to help burn through pinks and 6 salamanders for pretty much any situation.

 

[Margawt]

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Dracothion's Tail
- Grand Strategy: Predator's Domain
- Triumphs: Bloodthirsty

Leaders
Slann Starmaster (265)*
- General
- Command Trait: Ancient Knowledge
- Artefact: Godbeast Pendant
- Ancient Knowledge 2nd Spell: Celestial Apotheosis
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Skink Priest (80)*
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Guidance
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (150)**

Battleline
10 x Skinks (75)*
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (75)*
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
5 x Saurus Guard (115)*

Units
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1

Behemoths
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)*
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)**

Endless Spells & Invocations
The Burning Head (20)

Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
**Battle Regiment

Total: 1970 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 103
Drops: 2

I may try this 2 drop dt list that seems pretty brutal. Double bastiladons to help burn through pinks and 6 salamanders for pretty much any situation.

That does look brutal Jason, do you have a lot of players who play chaos armies in your Meta? When is your tournament? My tournament is on Saturday Dec 4th, 3 games, 1 day. I wish I had another 2 sally's. I only own 4 altogether.

 

[Jason839]

That does look brutal Jason, do you have a lot of players who play chaos armies in your Meta? When is your tournament? My tournament is on Saturday Dec 4th, 3 games, 1 day. I wish I had another 2 sally's. I only own 4 altogether.

oh yeah. our group is pretty diverse and you can count on 3-5 chaos armies every tournament. Slaves to darkness with tzeentch or khorne and legion of the first prince are really popular. Then there are some pure tzeentch, slaneesh, and nurgle players.

tournament will be this weekend.

 

[Margawt]

oh yeah. our group is pretty diverse and you can count on 3-5 chaos armies every tournament. Slaves to darkness with tzeentch or khorne and legion of the first prince are really popular. Then there are some pure tzeentch, slaneesh, and nurgle players.

tournament will be this weekend.

I see, then I would definitely use two bastiladon's. Good luck and post your results, you got me interested in your list and who you will be facing.

 

[Just A Skink]

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Dracothion's Tail
- Grand Strategy: Predator's Domain
- Triumphs: Bloodthirsty

Leaders
Slann Starmaster (265)*
- General
- Command Trait: Ancient Knowledge
- Artefact: Godbeast Pendant
- Ancient Knowledge 2nd Spell: Celestial Apotheosis
- Spell: Stellar Tempest
Skink Priest (80)*
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Guidance
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (150)**

Battleline
10 x Skinks (75)*
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (75)*
- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
5 x Saurus Guard (115)*

Units
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1
2 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)**
- Reinforced x 1

Behemoths
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)*
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (235)**

Endless Spells & Invocations
The Burning Head (20)

Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
**Battle Regiment

Total: 1970 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 103
Drops: 2

I may try this 2 drop dt list that seems pretty brutal. Double bastiladons to help burn through pinks and 6 salamanders for pretty much any situation.

This looks tough. Do you think you'd get any benefit from either Cogs or Palisade as opposed to the Burning Head?

 

[Jason839]

This looks tough. Do you think you'd get any benefit from either Cogs or Palisade as opposed to the Burning Head?

I feel like it was the best of the spells i could take. I dont feel like I would be playing very static with my Slann, so I dont feel like cogs would be super useful. 30 sentinels tend not to care about los so I feel like palisade isnt as effective as it could be at the moment. At least with the burning head its a couple mortals. I dunno. What do you guys think?

 

[Just A Skink]

I feel like it was the best of the spells i could take. I dont feel like I would be playing very static with my Slann, so I dont feel like cogs would be super useful. 30 sentinels tend not to care about los so I feel like palisade isnt as effective as it could be at the moment. At least with the burning head its a couple mortals. I dunno. What do you guys think?

That's cool. I didn't want to make you second guess. I agree that Burning Head is a cheap MW spell. I was just asking to get your input about the spells and to see how you might play it. I wasn't sure if you'd be sitting back with the Slann. Good luck!

 

[Jason839]

That's cool. I didn't want to make you second guess. I agree that Burning Head is a cheap MW spell. I was just asking to get your input about the spells and to see how you might play it. I wasn't sure if you'd be sitting back with the Slann. Good luck!

Haha oh dont worry. I second guess myself constantly. Hmm. I keep the slann in the realmscape it would limit my ability to deepstrike but then i could use cogs. If I dont keep the slann in the realmscape and move him out turn 2 or 3 to allow better deepstrikes, then cogs probably wouldnt be very useful. Its an interesting decision.

 

[Margawt]

I feel like it was the best of the spells i could take. I dont feel like I would be playing very static with my Slann, so I dont feel like cogs would be super useful. 30 sentinels tend not to care about los so I feel like palisade isnt as effective as it could be at the moment. At least with the burning head its a couple mortals. I dunno. What do you guys think?

I think I would drop the cogs if your slann is going mobile (sounds like an old "The Who" song). Prismatic Paliside might be worth it if you know you will be facing a few shooting armies, for 40 points its not bad, it can also be used as a defensive measure to screen yourself off. I was seriously thinking on using it in a couple of fun games but you would need at least one more wizard in your list to pull it off. Think on this for a moment, the slann or that skink wizard casts the Paliside in front of the slann so no one can see him, the slann then proceeds to cast his spells through the skink wizard when he needs los to the target. don't forget that the slann can fly so the Paliside really isn't in his way if he needs to move in the direction of the Paliside.

I'm playing this Saturday against a friend of mine in the Meta at my game store and I will be testing out my DT list against him. I'll take some pics and post my results here for you to see. He plays OBR so it will be tough, he plays petrifix elite so my Rend is nullified. My Sally's won't be as effective unless I roll some Sixes baby! lol.

 

[Jason839]

Went 2-1 in that local tournament yesterday. Got paired against lumineth with a bunch of sentinels in the final round and the scenario was Tooth and Nail. Ouch. Basically forced me to take a lot more damage than I was supposed to in that matchup and it gave him an edge. Beat cruelboys and beat morathi bowsnakes so I am pretty happy about the list. Just got the 1 scenario that is rough for DT. I kinda wish they would post the scenarios before the tournaments, but I can understand the thought on keeping it hidden so everyone is on an even level going in.

 

[Margawt]

Went 2-1 in that local tournament yesterday. Got paired against lumineth with a bunch of sentinels in the final round and the scenario was Tooth and Nail. Ouch. Basically forced me to take a lot more damage than I was supposed to in that matchup and it gave him an edge. Beat cruelboys and beat morathi bowsnakes so I am pretty happy about the list. Just got the 1 scenario that is rough for DT. I kinda wish they would post the scenarios before the tournaments, but I can understand the thought on keeping it hidden so everyone is on an even level going in.

Did you have to use the Godbeast Pendant at all during any of those battles. I won my game against the OBR by 1 point, I took some pics but unfortunately I can't get them to load onto my computer from my phone because the chip that goes into my phone does not fit properly anymore. I got to go get it fixed or replaced. I put my Godbeast pendant on my Carnosaur Scar-vet and when he died unfortunately he did not come back because I rolled a 1 lol. But I sure had my opponent on edge when I rolled the dice. Good times.

 

[Jason839]

Sometimes the pendant goes off. I play very objective focused, so im always teleporting my slann around so that I can summon and score objectives. This makes him an annoying piece most people try to kill.

 

[Margawt]

Sometimes the pendant goes off. I play very objective focused, so im always teleporting my slann around so that I can summon and score objectives. This makes him an annoying piece most people try to kill.

I only teleport him if I can see he's in imminent danger, otherwise the force that comes with him should be enough to hold or expand from where he landed with half the army lol.

 

[Margawt]

Figured how to get those pics from my phone to my computer at home with my battle with OBR. My tournament is this Saturday the 4th. I'll try to get some pics. We have three battles. I changed out my Carnosaur and Kroxigor unit and with a few points left over for a EOTG and a unit of 5 Chameleon skinks. This then put my army at 2000 even.

 

[Jason839]

Sad day. The most competitive list in DT just died. 3x 2 sallys and a bastiladon. that list went up 170 pts. DT is dead to me until something drastic changes in the meta.

 

[Margawt]

Sad day. The most competitive list in DT just died. 3x 2 sallys and a bastiladon. that list went up 170 pts. DT is dead to me until something drastic changes in the meta.

I saw the changes too and it will reshape our army lists for sure. Looks like Thunderlizard might be our best choice of the sub factions to choose from going forward until something changes again.

 

[Killer Angel]

Yep, that sucks hard.

I am going to try some variation, but 3 x 2 sallies i fear is no more.

 

[Putzfrau]

Yep, that sucks hard.

I am going to try some variation, but 3 x 2 sallies i fear is no more.

Is dropping a single salamander really that big of a deal?

You can still have lists with 6-7 and they'll still be competitive. I just dont think its better than thunder lizard anymore, but thats more due to the rise of IJ and sce than anything.

 

[Jason839]

Is dropping a single salamander really that big of a deal?

You can still have lists with 6-7 and they'll still be competitive. I just dont think its better than thunder lizard anymore, but thats more due to the rise of IJ and sce than anything.

absolutely. 3 units of 2 salamanders already felt weak. they were unreliable and the only time you did real meaningful damage were turns you could shoot and charge. losing another sally is a really big hit.