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AoS Compilation of GHB2017 for Seraphon

Aginor said:
Well... it only mentions abilities, not artefacts, so.....
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scubrat said:
True, ah, it's a bit sketchy, I mean, you could think they meant to add artefacts and traits in there too but it could be that they excluded them because whilst you would gain an advantage for having two allegiance abilities you wouldn't necessarily gain that same advantage for artefacts and traits because you can't stack those.
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Its pretty clear in the GHB you get to choose your artifacts based on your allegiance. If you Seraphon Allegiance you are not order allegiance so you can't take the order artifacts.
 

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Updated Warscrolls for all compendium armies

The skink chief losed its wonderful command ability.


But we are lucky, because it's a nerf to a single model... many other warcrolls / armies are simply no more (all the Von Carstein vanished) or are now unplayable (all Tomb Kings)
 
I also noticed Heinrich is gone.
Which is a pity because I played him today and liked his synergy with the few multi wound models there are in Death.

As for the Skink Chief: I love that model I built and used as my general for all that time. I will miss it. I am sad that they nerfed him so much. Without his command ability there is no reason to take him.
And then they added insult to injury by even taking his Seraphon keyword away so he breaks allegiance.
Same for Oxyotl. I started kitbashing one just a week ago and now I cannot even play him? That's just rude and unnecessary. That could at least have given him the Seraphon keyword.

Same for Jungle Swarms. They even renamed them and changed their points! Only to make them unplayable??? Really???
WTF...
 
Just got mine in the post, anyone got anything they want to know?
 
Siege rules!
Will there be wounds assigned to walls and fences so you can destroy them? And are there certain units marked so they can destroy buildings, like in those 6th Edition rules?
 
@Aginor Siege rules seem quite extensive. Basically for the offensive team there are three ways to wear down defenders, starve, batter and tunnel whereas defenders can defend against this with gather supplies, re-build and counter-tunnel.

Starve, roll a dice for each defending unit, on a result of 5 or more (6 or more if the unit is a hero) the unit suffers D3 mortal wounds.
Batter, roll a dice for each defending terrain feature, on a 5 or more the terrain feature has been breached.
Tunnel, both attacker and defender roll a dice, if the attacker's roll is high you can pick one hero and two other units (can't be monsters) to move through the tunnel, they emerge at the start of any of their movement phases.

That's the main gist, then there are two battleplans with more details.
 
Thanks!

Sounds a bit underwhelming to me though.
Some good ideas but I would probably have liked something else. Like battering rams. Or a list of units that can damage terrain and wounds for terrain.

The way you describe it it sounds as though the attacker can just batter a terrain piece without even moving close to it?
 
crazyhorse1321 said:
Its pretty clear in the GHB you get to choose your artifacts based on your allegiance. If you Seraphon Allegiance you are not order allegiance so you can't take the order artifacts.
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I also got the book today.
And I can confirm it is really clear that we have to decide between Seraphon and Order and cannot mix.
I can also confirm that indeed weapon artefacts, including our blade, can not be mounts' weapons. So no better rend for the carno. :(
Still a solid choice, especially for a Scar Veteran I guess.
 
In the app our beloved Skink Chief still has the Seraphon keyword. Might be that they forgot to update..
 
The Warscrolls in the app are not updated yet.
 
Nvm everything was answer in another thread
 
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Jason839 said:
the new battalions are nice but you won't be able to play them competitively in less than 3000 pts. You have to buy the mini battalions and that's 200-400 pts On the battalion tax alone depending on what you want to use. You just can't do it at lower pt levels
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Not sure I agree. Dracothion with Firelance and Shadowstrike might actually be quite good for 2500 and even playable at 2000 I think. I'll have to do some math on that...
 
@Aginor @Jason839 Definitely think it's viable at 2000pts, I have written up a list with Draco's Tail in and looks pretty strong.
 
Here is a list that I believe would work well:

Seraphon Oldblood on Carnosaur (Coronal Shield)

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (Blade of Realities)

Skink Priest

Skink Starpriest

Slann Starmaster (General, Vast Intelect, Incandecent Rectrices)

3 x (5) Saurus Cavalry

2 x (20) Skink Units

1 x (6) Ripperdactils

Dracothion's Tail

Firelance Starhost

Shadowstrike Starhost

With this configuration you have a single deployment, everything in dracothion's tail:

You would deploy the two units of skinks, the star priest and the priest, and a unit of saurus knights.

on the first turn roll for constellation and hope to get the +1 to charge, if not try to change it, summon the two carnosaurs as they are different warcrolls, summon one unit of cavalry, strap the trap with the ripperdactils and use masters of space and time to move the skink priest or in not necessary the other unit of taurus knights. Cast the curse of father and than use priestly trappings, if it doesn't go off on a 3 use the curse of dice roll to make it pass.



If you do this right you should be able to charge 6 rippers 2 carnosaurs and a unit of saurus knights on the first turn. That should be enough to destroy anything threatening.

meanwhile use the two units os skinks and the other unit of taurus knights to get objectives.



how do you guys like this one?
 
Xlanax_lot said:
Here is a list that I believe would work well:

Seraphon Oldblood on Carnosaur (Coronal Shield)

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (Blade of Realities)

Skink Priest

Skink Starpriest

Slann Starmaster (General, Vast Intelect, Incandecent Rectrices)

3 x (5) Saurus Cavalry

2 x (20) Skink Units

1 x (6) Ripperdactils

Dracothion's Tail

Firelance Starhost

Shadowstrike Starhost

With this configuration you have a single deployment, everything in dracothion's tail:

You would deploy the two units of skinks, the star priest and the priest, and a unit of saurus knights.

on the first turn roll for constellation and hope to get the +1 to charge, if not try to change it, summon the two carnosaurs as they are different warcrolls, summon one unit of cavalry, strap the trap with the ripperdactils and use masters of space and time to move the skink priest or in not necessary the other unit of taurus knights. Cast the curse of father and than use priestly trappings, if it doesn't go off on a 3 use the curse of dice roll to make it pass.



If you do this right you should be able to charge 6 rippers 2 carnosaurs and a unit of saurus knights on the first turn. That should be enough to destroy anything threatening.

meanwhile use the two units os skinks and the other unit of taurus knights to get objectives.



how do you guys like this one?
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I love your list :) But why take a Starpriest if you already have vast intellect? Why not 2 Priests so that you are almost certain to gain the area buff?

Also I take it you mean that the Slann would summon the two Carnosaurs through the Skink hero with "Arcane Vassal"?

Also, don't you get a 4th item? Since you also use the Dracothion's Tail Starhost. If so, maybe give the D3 mortal wounds (on a 3+ dice roll) within 12" to one of your Skink Priest units? Just put them close enough, and roll some extra mortal wounds :)
 
Tizianolol said:
I love that list!one drop lists arte so rare in this metà i predict. And your plan Is amazing! Tell me how it works if you test it soon :)
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I definitely will... I have high hopes for it

Nielspeterdejong said:
I love your list :) But why take a Starpriest if you already have vast intellect? Why not 2 Priests so that you are almost certain to gain the area buff?

Also I take it you mean that the Slann would summon the two Carnosaurs through the Skink hero with "Arcane Vassal"?

Also, don't you get a 4th item? Since you also use the Dracothion's Tail Starhost. If so, maybe give the D3 mortal wounds (on a 3+ dice roll) within 12" to one of your Skink Priest units? Just put them close enough, and roll some extra mortal wounds :)
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The starpriest is to be able to guive the carnosaurs the double damage and to be able to cast also mistic shield and arcane bolt

Yes, it is an option depending on what is more beneficial

I think you are right! I am mising an item! That is great news will hsve to think what to choose.
 
Xlanax_lot said:
I definitely will... I have high hopes for it



The starpriest is to be able to guive the carnosaurs the double damage and to be able to cast also mistic shield and arcane bolt

Yes, it is an option depending on what is more beneficial

I think you are right! I am mising an item! That is great news will hsve to think what to choose.
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Ah got it :) But I mean, you will only be able to summon those units in. So it's either 18" into enemy territory, or 9" away from enemies if you teleport your Skink Priest around right?
 
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