AoS 2k pts - order heavy shooting

[Killer Angel]

Lately in my meta i tend to face these kind of lists:
Chaos with Archaon;
Khorne with Skarbrand;
Beastmen with ghorgon, jabberslithe...;
Ogre with stonehorn, thundertusk...;
Orcs with mangler squigs...

If you're noticing a trend, you're right.

So, what's the best answer to those chaos and destruction heavy hitters?
Order Heavy shooting!

2000 pts:

4 warmachines + 2 heroes:
Dwarfs cannon
Dwarfs cannon
Dwarfs cannon
Dwarfs bolt thrower
Dwarf engineer
Starseer (to buff those warmachines)

('til now : 900 pts)

3 behemots:
Bastiladon *laser
Bastiladon *laser
Stegadon
(860 pts)
As you can see, those monsters will act as additional warmachines.
I could use a steam tank instead of a Bastiladon, but I don't have the model.

240 points remaining... 3 battleline... 3x 10 skinks, here we go!

This list is weak against many opponents (deep strikers, for example), but the 4 warmachines and the 3 behemots, buffed by the heroes, will inflict a TON of heavy ranged damage, the dinos will also enter melee, and the skinks are there mostly to take objectives ( and give some little more shooting )

I'm going to be hated. ..

 

[Bowser]

Haha! I too am gettinga little tired of Archaon and Skarbrand, especially in the same army! This looks like a fun way to usher them out!

 

[dwarfepic]

I like the idea and thinking around this list, and it seems that the generals handbook has opened us up to new list with other order factions. maybe I would swap out some dwarf artillery for a luminark of hysh as that gives you spells as well as high damage ranged attacks. also it is not as vulnerable as artillery crew to deep strickers, as it is a war machine.

Fun story: in two turns my bastilidon killed archaon due to it doing three damage to him from him being a daemon. the look on my opponents face was priceless...

 

[Killer Croc]

Whats about the hurricanum? Nice Output, offensive counterspell and a buff for all the war maschines

 

[dwarfepic]

Whats about the hurricanum? Nice Output, offensive counterspell and a buff for all the war maschines

I dont think that this would fit with the artillery theme. The luminark was linda of as well, but at least iy shoots.

 

[Killer Angel]

Empire got really cool and strong models and i am not saying they wouldn't work in this list. .. but I have not the models

I'll work on it, but I don't like too much to proxy, so I didn't include them

 

[Killer Croc]

Can someone give me the point costs of the dwarfs warmaschines? And the Engineering? Im on vacation and cant look in my handbook...

I think they perform very well with some of our lizards. I give them a try (with proxys) did someone play them in 1000 point games? Are 2 enough with a Star seer and Engineer?

Which of the maschines is the "best" ? I think the cannon?

/edit: same questions for the steam-tank. The model ist pretty nice, what do you think about him (point costs of the tank would be nice too)

Thank you guys !

 

[dwarfepic]

Steam tank is 300, cannons i think are 180.

 

[Bowser]

Cannon 180
Grudge thrower 120
Cogsmith 100
Bolt thrower 120
Flame cannon 200
Engineer 80
Grimm burlockson 100
Organ gun 120
Steam tank 300

 

[Killer Angel]

Today the list in the OP received its baptism of fire.
The opponent list:
The new ogres, with a formation with 3 thundertusks and a hero on a fourth thundertusk, plus 3+3 yethees, 4 sabretusks and a hunter.

They have the first turn, killing the whole crew of a cannon with the vultures and taking 5 skinks with the ambushing tigers.

In my turn i killed a mammoth , hurting the other three and melee one unit of yethees and the tigers with the 2 basti.

For the next round my opponent rolled a 3 and went first (i rolled a 2, twice tnx to starseer)
With charges and shooting he killed another cannon crew, killed the starseer and a unit of skinks, hurting both the basti and reducing the stegadon to 4 wounds.

In my turn i destroyed the 3 remaining thundertusks and reduced the number of yethees.

Then I won the roll for the turn, and the game.

 

[Killer Croc]

Thank you guys for the points!

@Killer Angel: congrats would you change something in your list after the game? I think about adding 1-2 cannons and i rly like the stegadon.

/edit: and how essential is the engineer?

 

[Killer Angel]

@Killer Angel: congrats would you change something in your list after the game? I think about adding 1-2 cannons and i rly like the stegadon.

/edit: and how essential is the engineer?

The list worked pretty nicely. I 'd say it's a solid counter to those annoying lists of heavy hitters.

I cannot add warmachines, as 4 is the max limit for 2000 pts.

And the engineer is simply vital, as all warmachines need the buffs granted by the guy (hint: kill the engineer and you’ll cripple all the artillery)

 

[InfamousBeany]

Good god that list is spikey! Congrats @Killer Angel, you have brought a new flavour of cheese to the forums!

Great stuff taking out those pesky ogres, they really do suffer from a spectacularly low model count.

Id hate to have to try and play this in an objective game though, I'd feel awful making my dwarfs have to drag their cannons up a hill. Highly mobile MSU armies would also be a pain to fight against too.

Keep us posted, can't wait to hear about Archaon having to complain to his dentist about a cannonball breaking his tooth.

 

[Killer Angel]

Id hate to have to try and play this in an objective game though, I'd feel awful making my dwarfs have to drag their cannons up a hill. Highly mobile MSU armies would also be a pain to fight against too.

Keep us posted, can't wait to hear about Archaon having to complain to his dentist about a cannonball breaking his tooth.

Oh yeah i was lucky that we rolled the first scenario, so I was basically defending my objective.
That said, for multiple objectives, skinks are fast and , with stegadon skink alpha support , even faster.
They could take objectives if I blast from afar the contenders.

About Archaon. .. eh, nasty dude. I already won against him, but only because it was fielded in a 1500 pts list so i was in strong numerical advantage and took the objectives.
It would be nice to teach him some humility.