8th Ed. 2250 pts list - All comers balanced list

[SeBM]

Slann - 320 pts
- Lore of Life
- The Becalming Cogitation
- Cupped Hand of the Old Ones

Saurus Old Blood - 221 pts
- Shield
- Armour of Destiny
- Sword of the Hornet

Total Lords: 541 pts

Scar-Veteran - 128 pts
- Light Armour
- Shield
- Gold Sigil Sword
- Cold One

Skink Priest - 125 pts
- Level 2
- Diadem of Power

Total Heroes: 253 pts

Saurus Warriors x23 - 306 pts
- Spears
- Full Command

Skinks Skirmishers x10 - 70 pts

Skinks Skirmishers x10 - 70 pts

Skink Cohort x16 Kroxigors x2 - 190 pts
- Musician
- Standard

Total Core: 636 (28.3%)

Temple Guard x20 - 387 pts
- Full Command

Cold One Cavalry x6 - 210 pts

Total Special: 597 pts (26.5%)

Salamander x2 - 160 pts
- Extra Handler

Total Rare: 160 pts (7.1%)

Total points: 2187 pts

So there are a few things I'm not sure of yet. I could give BSB to the Slann but it feels risky to me. I know it's very unlikely that a ''lifestar'' TG unit will run away, but I'd like to know what you guys think. I know CoC isn't very popular but I'm looking forward to using them as I love the models, Needless to say you can't remove them!

I am mainly looking for advice on how to fill the last 63 points of my army and how I can tweak it. I thought about adding 5 chameleons but I feel like they deserve to come in groups of 6 at least. Waiting for your advice guys!

 

[Dinesen]

If it was me I would remove the champ in the Saurus and buy a unit of 6 Camos - I would feel points were better spent then.

 

[SeBM]

That's a good idea, it's a good way to get my 6th chameleon and spend my remaining points. Anyone else???

 

[Bibamus]

Slann - 320 pts
- Lore of Life
- The Becalming Cogitation
- Cupped Hand of the Old Ones

The Slann is rather useless. with 4/7 spells you might not even get throne of vines, or some of the other usefull spells. get focus of mystery or plaqu of tepok (tough i suggest mystery). also get focused rumination so he can also cast all his spells, as he stands he's weaker than most lvl 4 wizards you will face

Saurus Old Blood - 221 pts
- Shield
- Armour of Destiny
- Sword of the Hornet

if you have the points, i guess he is usefull.

Total Lords: 541 pts

Scar-Veteran - 128 pts
- Light Armour
- Shield
- Gold Sigil Sword
- Cold One

same as oldblood

Skink Priest - 125 pts
- Level 2
- Diadem of Power

without rumination its a bad sign if you have 2 dice to spare. also, why make him a level 2 if you want to save power dice. usually with a slann you don't even get to use the skink to cast spells since you want the slann to get all his spells off. the diadem used to be worth it in 7th since the skink generated 2 dice wich only he could use, now... its not that good

Total Heroes: 253 pts

Saurus Warriors x23 - 306 pts
- Spears
- Full Command

i gess its 23 to fit a character in the unit, fair enough, but i would drop the champion if you need the points somewhere else, while he can be revived he's not as usefull as another saurus or points somehwere else, saurus characters usually don't need challenge protection so you should be ok on that front

Skinks Skirmishers x10 - 70 pts

Skinks Skirmishers x10 - 70 pts

Skink Cohort x16 Kroxigors x2 - 190 pts
- Musician
- Standard

3 krox would be better but i've never used skrox so i'm not sure about this
Total Core: 636 (28.3%)

Temple Guard x20 - 387 pts
- Full Command

you could probably drop 4 TG and still have a 5x4 unit with the slann. they can be revived now so thats not that much of a problem anymore. same thing with the champion as with saurus, unless you give him a magic weapon, wich makes him better than saurus champions since he can be revived with the weapon and continue killing things. you might want something like burning blade of chotec in case you meet a hydra or another nasty thing with regen or high armor save.

Cold One Cavalry x6 - 210 pts

these guys are a lot weaker now since they strike last most of the time, and with T4, 2+ save and only 1 wound for a 35 pts model that can't even deny ranks unless you spend a fortune on the unit.... i'd reconsider these guys, tough i did not use them in 8th yet because of the above mentioned reasons


Total Special: 597 pts (26.5%)

Salamander x2 - 160 pts
- Extra Handler

these guys should be in separate units so you can cause more panic checks

Total Rare: 160 pts (7.1%)

Total points: 2187 pts

So there are a few things I'm not sure of yet. I could give BSB to the Slann but it feels risky to me. I know it's very unlikely that a ''lifestar'' TG unit will run away, but I'd like to know what you guys think. I know CoC isn't very popular but I'm looking forward to using them as I love the models, Needless to say you can't remove them!

I am mainly looking for advice on how to fill the last 63 points of my army and how I can tweak it. I thought about adding 5 chameleons but I feel like they deserve to come in groups of 6 at least. Waiting for your advice guys!

i'd add some chameleons for war machine hunting, but otherwise, its ok

 

[Dinesen]

Ones more I totally agree with Bibamus. However I like to add that If was to build a list I would go all in on Magic with abit of shooting and close combat as backup. Or a List all about Close combat with a Wizard or two to kill the magic phase as much as possible. However the Magic list is the far the best choice if it is all about winning along with shooting. But a Bad ass close combat killer list, can do pretty good as well. And t is atleast as much fun to play as the Magic list.

 

[Wolf]

I would re-run your numbers if I were you... ;-)

 

[SeBM]

Fist of all, thanks for all the constructive criticism. I've taken everything into account (except the CoC, I want those in my army ) and went back to the drawing table. Here's what I came up with. Still not sure about giving BSB to the Slann. I also realized not only my math were wrong, but I also made some mistakes on what I wrote. This time, it should look a lot better .


Lord Pacha-Kamak - Slann Mage-Priest - 420 pts
Lore of Life
Focus of Mystery
The Focused Rumination
Higher State of Consciousness or Unfathomable Presence, depending on the army I'm facing
Cupped Hands of the Old Ones
-- Should I make him my BSB??? If so I need to free up some points.

Lords: 18,6% (420)

Kor'Boq - Saurus Scar-Veteran - 132 pts
Gold Sigil Sword
Shield
Armour of Fortune

Bor-Kalanok - Saurus Scar-Veteran - 138 pts
Sword of the Hornet
Shield
Light Armour
Cold One

Heroes: 12% (270)

23 Saurus Warriors - 294 pts
Shield
Spears
Musician
Standard Bearer
-- Kor'Boq goes in there

16 Skinks w/2 Kroxigors - 204 pts
Musician
Standard Bearer

16 Skinks w/2 Kroxigors - 204 pts
Musician
Standard Bearer

10 Skinks Skirmishers -70 pts

10 Skinks Skirmishers -70 pts

Core Units: 37,4%(842)

16 Temple Guards - 311 pts
Revered Guardian w/Burning Blade of Chotec
Musician
Standard Bearer

5 Cold One Cavalry - 175 pts
-- Bor'Kalanok goes in there

6 Chameleon Skinks - 72 pts

Special Units: 24,8% (558)

1 Salamander Hunting Pack - 80 pts
Extra Handler

1 Salamander Hunting Pack - 80 pts
Extra Handler

Rare Units: 7,1% (160)

Total Points: 2250 pts

 

[Gomek]

It's not really heavy enough for my liking...

Stick Becalming Cognition on the Slann as your third Discipline to wreck their high level mage for a start.

1 extra Saurus would give you the option of either an 8x3, 6x4 or 5x5 unit once the character is in there.

Combine the Skrox units into one, ranking up the skinks.

Maybe increase the numbers of Cavalry if you like them- give them an extra rank.

 

[SeBM]

Ok so here goes Gomek.

- About the Slann, it will depend a lot on who I am facing I guess. I can always switch depending on my opponent.

- The unit of 23 Saurus has a Scar-Vet in it and either goes 8x3 or 6x4

- Not so sure about combining the 2 Skrox units. Not sure it's worth getting the unit to horde size.

- As for the cavalry, it's hard to get more at that point level.

- Also, what do you mean about heavy??? Are you talking about the size of the units??? I'm not sure anything beside a Skrox unit deserves to be a horde in a LM army at 2000 pointish and to me, theses guys are flankers with punch, not units I want to use as anchors. Maybe boost the unit of Saurus a little?