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7th Ed. 14k Battle vs Empire

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This weekend a buddy and I are planning to do a (Bring what you got) type battle.

The board is 12' long 6'wide with random generated terrain and Hidden deployment.

So basically this is all the LM miniatures I have. Any comments on character kits are welcome. Or if you see anything not allowed like duplicate items.



OK ARMY LIST WAS EDITED. I BELIEVE I REMOVED DUPLICATE MAGIC ITEMS



14000 Pts - Lizardmen Roster - all lizards


Slaan Mage-Priest (1#, 600 pts)
1 Slann Mage-Priest (Battle Standard Bearer) @ 600 pts (General; Battle Standard Bearer)
1 Itxi Grubs
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Totem of Prophecy
1 The Focused Rumination
1 Higher State of Consciousness
1 Unfathomable Presence
1 Soul of Stone

Slaan Mage-Priest (1#, 520 pts)
1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 520 pts
1 Cupped Hands of the Old Ones
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Higher State of Consciousness
1 The Focused Rumination
1 Unfathomable Presence
1 Soul of Stone

Slaan Mage-Priest (1#, 515 pts)
1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 515 pts
1 Staff of Sorcery
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Blood Statuette of Spite
1 Higher State of Consciousness
1 The Focused Rumination
1 Unfathomable Presence
1 Soul of Stone

Saurus Oldblood (1#, 445 pts)
1 Saurus Oldblood @ 445 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Scaly Skin)
1 Carnosaur (Causes Terror; Scaly Skin)
1 Blade of Revered Tzunki
1 Enchanted Shield

Saurus Oldblood (1#, 303 pts)
1 Saurus Oldblood @ 303 pts (Hand Weapon; Great Weapon; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)
1 The Horn of Kygor

Saurus Oldblood (1#, 245 pts)
1 Saurus Oldblood @ 245 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Scaly Skin)
1 Scimitar of the Sun Resplendent
1 Aura of Quetzl

Saurus Scar-Veteran (1#, 163 pts)
1 Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 163 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)
1 Burning Blade of Chotec
1 War Drum of Xahutec

Saurus Scar-Veteran (1#, 144 pts)
1 Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 144 pts (Hand Weapon; Great Weapon; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Hide of the Cold Ones

Saurus Scar-Veteran (1#, 144 pts)
1 Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 144 pts (Hand Weapon; Great Weapon; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Amulet of Itzl
1 Bane Head

Skink Priest (6#, 430 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 430 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Ancient Stegadon (Engine of the Gods; Causes Terror; Immune to Psychology; Large Target; Scaly Skin; Stubborn)
4 Skink Crew (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Aquatic; Skirmishers)
1 Plaque of Tepok
1 Dispel Scroll
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Priest (6#, 435 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 435 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Ancient Stegadon (Engine of the Gods; Causes Terror; Immune to Psychology; Large Target; Scaly Skin; Stubborn)
4 Skink Crew (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Aquatic; Skirmishers)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Curse-Charm of Tepok
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Priest (1#, 150 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 150 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Priest (1#, 150 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 150 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Priest (1#, 150 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 150 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Priest (1#, 150 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 150 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Priest (1#, 140 pts)
1 Skink Priest @ 140 pts (Level 2 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Aquatic)
1 Cube of Darkness
1 1. Portent of Far
1 2. Second Sign of Amul
1 3. Celestial Shield
1 4. Forked Lightning
1 5. Uranon's Thunder Bolt
1 6. Comet of Casandora

Skink Chief (6#, 350 pts)
1 Skink Chief @ 350 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Light Armour; Aquatic)
1 Stegadon (Causes Terror; Immune to Psychology; Large Target; Scaly Skin; Stubborn)
4 Skink Crew (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Aquatic; Skirmishers)
1 Stegadon War-Spear

Skink Chief (1#, 104 pts)
1 Skink Chief @ 104 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield; Aquatic)
1 Sword of Might
1 Cloak of Feathers

Skink Chief (1#, 99 pts)
1 Skink Chief @ 99 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield; Aquatic)
1 Sword of Striking
1 Talisman of Protection

Skink Chief (1#, 112 pts)
1 Skink Chief @ 112 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Light Armour; Shield; Aquatic)
1 Sword of Battle
1 Charm of the Jaguar Warrior

Skink Chief (1#, 124 pts)
1 Skink Chief @ 124 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield; Aquatic)
1 Terradon (Flyer)
1 Staff of the Lost Sun

Temple Guard (24#, 444 pts)
23 ~[(^One or more selected options present a potential usage conflict]×~[(#]Temple Guard @ 444 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Revered Guardian (Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield)
1 War Banner

Temple Guard (24#, 444 pts)
23 ~[(^One or more selected options present a potential usage conflict]×~[(#]Temple Guard @ 444 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Revered Guardian (Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield)
1 Jaguar Standard

Temple Guard (15#, 275 pts)
14 ~[(^One or more selected options present a potential usage conflict]×~[(#]Temple Guard @ 275 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Revered Guardian (Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 318 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 318 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 318 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 318 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 318 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 318 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 318 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 318 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 294 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 294 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 294 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 294 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Shield)

Saurus Warriors (24#, 294 pts)
23 Saurus Warriors @ 294 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Saurus Champion (Hand Weapon; Shield)

Skinks (30#, 172 pts)
29 Skinks @ 172 pts (Skink Brave; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)
1 Skink Brave (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield)

Skinks (25#, 147 pts)
24 Skinks @ 147 pts (Skink Brave; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)
1 Skink Brave (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield)

Skinks (29#, 217 pts)
27 Skinks @ 217 pts (Skink Brave; Kroxigor; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)
1 Skink Brave (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield)
1 Kroxigor (Great Weapon; Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)

Skinks (29#, 217 pts)
27 Skinks @ 217 pts (Skink Brave; Kroxigor; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)
1 Skink Brave (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield)
1 Kroxigor (Great Weapon; Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Skinks (10#, 50 pts)
10 Skinks @ 50 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic)

Stegadon (6#, 235 pts)
1 Stegadon @ 235 pts (Giant Bow; Causes Terror; Immune to Psychology; Large Target; Scaly Skin; Stubborn)
5 Skink Crew (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Stegadon (6#, 235 pts)
1 Stegadon @ 235 pts (Giant Bow; Causes Terror; Immune to Psychology; Large Target; Scaly Skin; Stubborn)
5 Skink Crew (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Krogixor (4#, 220 pts)
4 Kroxigor @ 220 pts (Great Weapon; Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)

Krogixor (4#, 220 pts)
4 Kroxigor @ 220 pts (Great Weapon; Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)

Cold One Cavalry (6#, 300 pts)
5 Cold One Cavalry @ 300 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One Rider Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)
1 Sun Standard of Chotec
6 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)

Cold One Cavalry (6#, 285 pts)
5 Cold One Cavalry @ 285 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One Rider Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)
1 Huanchi's Blessed Totem
6 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)

Cold One Cavalry (6#, 310 pts)
5 Cold One Cavalry @ 310 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One Rider Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)
1 Plaque of Dominion
6 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)

Cold One Cavalry (6#, 260 pts)
5 Cold One Cavalry @ 260 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One Rider Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)
6 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)

Cold One Cavalry (5#, 225 pts)
4 Cold One Cavalry @ 225 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin)
1 Cold One Rider Champion (Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield)
5 Cold One (Causes Fear; Stupid)

Terradon Riders (5#, 150 pts)
5 Terradon Rider @ 150 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin; Flyer)
5 Terradon (Flyer)

Chameleon Skinks (9#, 114 pts)
8 Chameleon Skinks @ 114 pts (Hand Weapon; Blowpipe; Aquatic; Scouts; Skirmishers)
1 Stalker (Hand Weapon; Blowpipe)

Salamander (12#, 225 pts)
3 Salamander Hunting Pack @ 225 pts (Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin; Skirmishers)
9 Skink Handlers (Hand Weapon; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Salamander (12#, 225 pts)
3 Salamander Hunting Pack @ 225 pts (Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin; Skirmishers)
9 Skink Handlers (Hand Weapon; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Salamander (12#, 225 pts)
3 Salamander Hunting Pack @ 225 pts (Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin; Skirmishers)
9 Skink Handlers (Hand Weapon; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Salamander (12#, 225 pts)
3 Salamander Hunting Pack @ 225 pts (Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin; Skirmishers)
9 Skink Handlers (Hand Weapon; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Razordon (12#, 225 pts)
3 Razordon Hunting Pack @ 225 pts (Aquatic; Causes Fear; Scaly Skin; Skirmishers)
9 Skink Handlers (Hand Weapon; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Skink Skirmishers (10#, 70 pts)
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70 pts (Hand Weapon; Blowpipe; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Skink Skirmishers (10#, 70 pts)
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70 pts (Hand Weapon; Blowpipe; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Skink Skirmishers (10#, 70 pts)
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70 pts (Hand Weapon; Blowpipe; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Skink Skirmishers (10#, 80 pts)
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 80 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Skink Skirmishers (10#, 80 pts)
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 80 pts (Hand Weapon; Javelin & Shield; Aquatic; Skirmishers)

Validation Report:
Edition: 7th Edition; Game Type: Normal Game; Army Subtype: Lizardmen Army; Special Rules: Forbid Special Characters, Forbid Storm of Chaos, Forbid Albion, Forbid Lustria, Forbid Regiments of Renown
One or more magic items is taken more than once.

Total Roster Cost: 14042

CASTING DICE 30
DISPEL DICE 17

CHARACTERS 32.0%
cORE 26.5%
sPECIAL 26.5%
RARE 8.0%
 
Wow! How long will that take?

That is a huge amount of models to keep track of and use in a turn. Hope you guys are up for a weekend long battle.

Good luck.
 
LOL yes it will take a few days.

Fortunatly the board will be set up in my game room and we can take several days to finish.

Should be a lot of fun.

He will have 11 guns (artillery), 2 Stank, 6 units of heavy knights, 2 pistolier, 2 outrider and about 900 infantry lol

It will be interesting to see what an Empire Grand Battery looks like! Talk about marching into the Guns!!!
 
Whoa!!! Now that's a BIG battle!!!

Post some pics and let us know how it goes :)
 
On the 3 Slann I am bringing.

What lores of Magic would you suggest.

Currently I have 30 Power Dice not counting the free dice the Slann will receive. Seems like a lot, however, the Empire player has 22 Dispel + the Rod of Power (stores up to 3 dice for use as power or dispel)

Heavens and Metal are good against the empire. Maybe the Lore of Fire?

Your thoughts?


I will post photos of the board and terrain in a bit
 
So, big game; big fun! :)

On your list;
Your SV 12.546 (his serial number) uses the Sword of Battle
Your Skink chief 1.236 (his serial number) ALSO uses sword of battle.
I don't know if that's a typo, but as it stands; it's illegal.

On your list;
I'd try and get some more chameleon skinks in. You can drop the razordons/a razordon to do this, alternatively; drop a Salamander. (Note: I haven't counted your special slots...)

Your general-Slann has the plaque of tepok+focus of mystery...Which makes the plaque useless!

As it stands, you have 14 Dispell scrolls.
You also seem to have 3 scroll caddies with the exact same setup; LvL2, Scroll, Curse Charm.
...?

If you're afraid for his magic:
Becalming Cogitation on your slann and the plaque of dominion. This allows you to drop one (or 3 :P) caddie(s). Plaque of dominion is suggested over the jaguar standard on your BSB-General-Slann.

Your War-Spearadon really needs to be an ancient! It's worth it.
The lone skink chief (on foot) carries the staff of the lost sun. WHY? I really doubt if he is usefull (at all).

I'd drop the razordons and/or Sala's from their units first. Lone salamanders can do the job too; although 3 are way more destructive, they are also harder to keep hidden.
Razors aren't worth it (for me).

Now I understand that these are all your models, and you simply put some heroes in just to fill points. Still; these are my points of criticism. I'm sure there are more; but the list is so darn huge!

And for future lists; try not to copy+paste directly from Army Builder. We all know that an EotG causes terror is ITP, has 4 skink crew....etc..
This list is so big, I can understand. Just saying :)

Keep us informed!

The Hunted
 
sick battle :D i defenetly would like to see photos!! for how long have you been collecting lizards to get that many? im squeeze every peny and only have 36 saurus 36 skinks salamandra 10 temple guard and 8 COC. afcourse i have just started and nothing is painted yet.... but your army should look sick on the tabble!!
 
No one laugh but here I would suggest Lore of Life...yeah that's right, Life...and what?

Against that gun line and with randomly generate terrain I think it is safe to say that Life would actually work quite well in the right situation which I imagine would come up here. Warmachine on a hill for example...

Of course I can't access the lore on this computer (darn pdf download why won't you work!) so I'm just going by memory...
 
Ok I think I corrected the duplicate items and corrected the errors. (edit of list post above)


As far as adding other units like chams ... I dont have any more miniatures.

the hero/lords that have mounts are on them etc.



Slanns pretty much took the same disciplines

Rumination for the free power dice
Higher state of Consciousness to be immune to his 11 artillery
Unfathomable presence to provide magic resistance to the temple guard
Soul Stone incase I miscast

Any more suggestions on Lores?

He will have as stated 11 artillery pieces (cannon and rockets) no motars and roughly 743 miniatures


I have 643 models on the field.

@Eagleblaze: Life might be good. The range of the spells might be an issue since the board is 6' wide 12' long (72" x 144") and most life spells are 12"

@Walgis: I have been playing and collecting since the game began... 1st edition. which was before army books even. When the game first started you simply built your troops based on points. IE toughness was 2 pts per. Str 3pts per etc.



The board is so darn big the photos do not show the terrain in great detal but will post shortly.
 
My main piece of advice would be to go with focus of mystery and heavens magic on the three Slann. Heavens is perfect for this size battle, since you will be able to put comets down all along his gunline. The guns will be the biggest threat to your force, so take em out quick! The other damage spells have unlimited range as well. You might want to take one with metal to crush his knights and stanks. Another possibility is Beasts, because Beast Cowers has no range limitation, and can be used to immobilize units in his army at inopportune times.

But Heavens sounds good. Call down the wrath of the old ones.
 
Life is typically an enemy unit within 12" of the caster or within 12" of terrain so unlimited range in a sense, depends on how much terrain you have I suppose. D6 s6 hits to anything on a hill.
Gift of Life on a 7+ could be a handy spell to have aswell if you're keeping your slann within 12" of one another. Regain all lost wounds...
Could be an idea.

Though as already suggested heavens would no doubt be a fine choice here. All you need is to be able to see those guns in order to target them with FL or UT.

-Eagle
 
well how did it go? have any pic of the battle realy ithing to see them :)
 
Batu said:
1 Saurus Oldblood @ 445 pts (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Scaly Skin)
Click to expand...

Saurus Oldblood it's a hand weapon? Just asking because I'm just collecting a hand weapon.
 
i guess the battle isnt over yet if you dont write us? :D
 
Dear god....
How long did it take to collect all of those models? and have you painted all of them??
:jawdrop:
If so major props man
 
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