TOW 1k Letsgo my Stego

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Looking for feedback on a 1k dual steggo list

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Lizards 1k [1000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Lizardmen
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++ Characters [498 pts] ++

Skink Chief [338 pts]
- Hand weapon
- calloused hide (counts as light armour)
- Battle Standard Bearer
- on Stegadon (Great horns and giant bow)
- Talisman of Protection
- Armour of Meteoric Iron

Saurus Scar-Veteran [168 pts]
- Hand weapon
- scaly skin (heavy armor)
- General
- on Cold One
- Horned One
- Spellshield
- Biting Blade

++ Core Units [289 pts] ++

12 Saurus Warrior [189 pts]
- Hand weapons and shields
- scaly skin (counts as heavy armour)
- Spawn Leader (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

10 Skink Skirmishers [50 pts]
- Javelins and shields
- calloused hides (counts as light armour)

10 Skink Skirmishers [50 pts]
- Javelins and shields
- calloused hides (counts as light armour)

++ Rare Units [215 pts] ++

1 Stegadon (0-1 Stegadon or Troglodon per 1,000 points) [215 pts]
- Great horns and giant blowpipes
- Skink Crew (x5) with hand weapons and javelins (required)

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Yes- I have no Magic.

In 1k games, I figured you are typically only going to really see level 2 mages. Maybe level 3. But most people won't spring for a level 4 lord. As such there will be less spells in play and a lower chance of success. So I have more faith in leaving it to my one dispel attempt.

But this is also why I took some of the items I did. Talisman and Meteoric on the Chief for the 5+ unmodifiable /5+ ward on a stegadon. Also my BSB

Then I am running a cowboy! I was originally thinking giant blade and Enchanted Shield, but figured he'd be exposed too easily to magic missiles, so opted for the spell shield and dropped down to a Biting Blade. Obligatory Horned One to avoid stupid.

General idea of the list is that people won't be ready to face down 2 behemoths at 1k. That's essentially it.

 

[discomute]

Can you find room for the Skink to hold something in his other hand, like an additional hand weapon? 3 points for an extra attack (as a shield does nothing) is a good deal.

I don't rate the spellshield, partcularly in 1000 point games. Also you have a shield and a spellshield on him. Definitely dont need that, can lose it for an extra attack for your skink chielf (or a javelin to throw?)

 

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Can you find room for the Skink to hold something in his other hand, like an additional hand weapon? 3 points for an extra attack (as a shield does nothing) is a good deal.

I don't rate the spellshield, partcularly in 1000 point games. Also you have a shield and a spellshield on him. Definitely dont need that, can lose it for an extra attack for your skink chielf (or a javelin to throw?)

The double shield is a mistake. That's should give me the 3 points. Thanks for catching that.

I normally don't normally rate the spell shield either, but felt the magical ward was more important than the non-magical one in this case, as lone character will never protect him in this case, so he is just super vulnerable to magic missiles.

Edited the list to fix the double shield and got the extra hand weapons

 

[airjamy]

Looking for feedback on a 1k dual steggo list

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Lizards 1k [1000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Lizardmen
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++ Characters [498 pts] ++

Skink Chief [338 pts]
- Hand weapon
- calloused hide (counts as light armour)
- Battle Standard Bearer
- on Stegadon (Great horns and giant bow)
- Talisman of Protection
- Armour of Meteoric Iron

Saurus Scar-Veteran [168 pts]
- Hand weapon
- scaly skin (heavy armor)
- General
- on Cold One
- Horned One
- Spellshield
- Biting Blade

++ Core Units [289 pts] ++

12 Saurus Warrior [189 pts]
- Hand weapons and shields
- scaly skin (counts as heavy armour)
- Spawn Leader (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

10 Skink Skirmishers [50 pts]
- Javelins and shields
- calloused hides (counts as light armour)

10 Skink Skirmishers [50 pts]
- Javelins and shields
- calloused hides (counts as light armour)

++ Rare Units [215 pts] ++

1 Stegadon (0-1 Stegadon or Troglodon per 1,000 points) [215 pts]
- Great horns and giant blowpipes
- Skink Crew (x5) with hand weapons and javelins (required)

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Created with "Old World Builder"

[https://old-world-builder.com]

Yes- I have no Magic.

In 1k games, I figured you are typically only going to really see level 2 mages. Maybe level 3. But most people won't spring for a level 4 lord. As such there will be less spells in play and a lower chance of success. So I have more faith in leaving it to my one dispel attempt.

But this is also why I took some of the items I did. Talisman and Meteoric on the Chief for the 5+ unmodifiable /5+ ward on a stegadon. Also my BSB

Then I am running a cowboy! I was originally thinking giant blade and Enchanted Shield, but figured he'd be exposed too easily to magic missiles, so opted for the spell shield and dropped down to a Biting Blade. Obligatory Horned One to avoid stupid.

General idea of the list is that people won't be ready to face down 2 behemoths at 1k. That's essentially it.

Looks pretty good. I do think you probably want an Ancient Steg for S6 on Stomps and Impacts, that is a pretty big difference.

I am not 100% yet if you can take 2 Stegs in 1K. The mount section does lead you to the actual Steg rules, which makes me think perhaps you can only 1 have per 1K points.

Biting Blade is prolly not worth it, Obsidian Blades is pretty nice, unless you think you need the Magical Attacks.

I personally dislike Muscians in this edition, you can probably go without.

 

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

I am not 100% yet if you can take 2 Stegs in 1K. The mount section does lead you to the actual Steg rules, which makes me think perhaps you can only 1 have per 1K points.

It just leads you there for reference. It's actual entry is under Character Mounts.

You are not taking a stegadon. You are taking a skink Chief and then mounting him on a stego. That is not the same unit as a "stegadon" and it's definitely not a rare choice, which is where the limit is

 

[discomute]

Looks pretty good. I do think you probably want an Ancient Steg for S6 on Stomps and Impacts, that is a pretty big difference.

I am not 100% yet if you can take 2 Stegs in 1K. The mount section does lead you to the actual Steg rules, which makes me think perhaps you can only 1 have per 1K points.

Biting Blade is prolly not worth it, Obsidian Blades is pretty nice, unless you think you need the Magical Attacks.

I personally dislike Muscians in this edition, you can probably go without.

You dislike musicians? Winning in a tie is a big deal I think. It's close to a banner.

 

[airjamy]

You dislike musicians? Winning in a tie is a big deal I think. It's close to a banner.

I would say it kinda is not. How many fights are an exact tie? It only comes into effect like 10-20% of the fights, while a banner gives you that +1 100% of the time.

 

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

I would say it kinda is not. How many fights are an exact tie? It only comes into effect like 10-20% of the fights, while a banner gives you that +1 100% of the time.

Maybe so. But I feel 2-3 musicians in an army (in this case only 1) is worth the equivalent points in skinks just for that 20%.

Banner always yes. Musician unless I just can't fit it in my list.

 

[saga]

Have you had a chance to run your list yet? How was no magic at 1k? How were the double stegs? How as the new age cowboy? Any insights would be appreciated!

 

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Have you had a chance to run your list yet? How was no magic at 1k? How were the double stegs? How as the new age cowboy? Any insights would be appreciated!

I was making the list for an event that hasn't happened yet. Unfortunately no play yet