Star Trek vs. Star Wars (and a collection of memes)

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well, that's true.

 

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RIP Nichelle Nichols

 

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RIP Nichelle Nichols

i've heard the news.

 

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i've heard the news.

I think that just leaves Shatner and Takei from the main cast.

 

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RIP Nichelle Nichols

i've heard the news.

As did I, a real shame, but 89 isn’t a bad age to go.


Anyway, from Trek to Wars:

Looks good so far, some good actors I know in there, and, like in Rogue One, some nice links to the Prequels such as the Senate scenes and the Phase II Clone Troopers, but I just hope they don’t do anything ridiculous or woke as they appeared to do in Kenobi...

 

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As did I, a real shame, but 89 isn’t a bad age to go.


Anyway, from Trek to Wars:

Looks good so far, some good actors I know in there, and, like in Rogue One, some nice links to the Prequels such as the Senate scenes and the Phase II Clone Troopers, but I just hope they don’t do anything ridiculous or woke as they appeared to do in Kenobi...

You know, that actually does look pretty good. Of course, it IS a trailer. I guess that's what Lucasfilm has been putting money into, b/c it wasn't Obi-wan. Maybe, so long as it's not characters that Lucas created, Disney will support it?

 

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I think that just leaves Shatner and Takei from the main cast.

Also Walter Koenig (Pavel Chekov)

 

[Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl]

You know, that actually does look pretty good. Of course, it IS a trailer. I guess that's what Lucasfilm has been putting money into, b/c it wasn't Obi-wan. Maybe, so long as it's not characters that Lucas created, Disney will support it?

That's an interesting point given that we've seen the Mandalorian, a Disney original character, essentially become what a lot of fans wanted Boba Fett to be (albeit with a pointless additional 'adoptive dad' subplot with the fan-grabbing baby plot device bolted on), while actual Boba, alongside Obi-Wan and Luke, is weakened and humiliated in favour of characters that satisfy THE MESSAGE (Fennec Shand, Reva and Rey).

However, there are exceptions to the rule thus far in that Ahsoka (I can't see them wanting to ruin her character given she's becoming more and more Rey-like and also ticks woke boxes), Vader (who has been given much more of a demonstration of the true extent of his skills and powers in Disney productions than we have seen in the LucasFilm OT) and Palpatine (literally the only reason the Rise of Skywalker grossed as much as it did, with most of the limited praise of the film to this day being directed toward Ian McDiarmid's return to form) have all got off relatively lightly. It seems that only female and villainous male LucasFilm characters have been left relatively untouched by the baleful glare of KK, again to satisty THE MESSAGE.

Only time will tell of course - always in motion is the future (look, I'm quoting the Original Trilogy for once, take a picture while it lasts ). I honestly hope Andor succeeds, because I liked Cassian as a more gritty kind of hero in Rogue One, and he deserves to be given some more development to join the pantheon of other main Star Wars characters, but then as you imply, trailers can be misleading, as appeared to be the case with the Obi-Wan series, so we can only hope that Cassian can salvage some glory for the endangered species that is strong male characters, as the Mandalorian appears to have done before him.

 

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Grrr, Imrahil

 

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Also Walter Koenig (Pavel Chekov)

Oops. Color me embarrassed. I thought Koenig had passed recently.

 

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That's an interesting point given that we've seen the Mandalorian, a Disney original character, essentially become what a lot of fans wanted Boba Fett to be (albeit with a pointless additional 'adoptive dad' subplot with the fan-grabbing baby plot device bolted on), while actual Boba, alongside Obi-Wan and Luke, is weakened and humiliated in favour of characters that satisfy THE MESSAGE (Fennec Shand, Reva and Rey).

However, there are exceptions to the rule thus far in that Ahsoka (I can't see them wanting to ruin her character given she's becoming more and more Rey-like and also ticks woke boxes), Vader (who has been given much more of a demonstration of the true extent of his skills and powers in Disney productions than we have seen in the LucasFilm OT) and Palpatine (literally the only reason the Rise of Skywalker grossed as much as it did, with most of the limited praise of the film to this day being directed toward Ian McDiarmid's return to form) have all got off relatively lightly. It seems that only female and villainous male LucasFilm characters have been left relatively untouched by the baleful glare of KK, again to satisty THE MESSAGE.

Only time will tell of course - always in motion is the future (look, I'm quoting the Original Trilogy for once, take a picture while it lasts ). I honestly hope Andor succeeds, because I liked Cassian as a more gritty kind of hero in Rogue One, and he deserves to be given some more development to join the pantheon of other main Star Wars characters, but then as you imply, trailers can be misleading, as appeared to be the case with the Obi-Wan series, so we can only hope that Cassian can salvage some glory for the endangered species that is strong male characters, as the Mandalorian appears to have done before him.

Good points. I don't know that my theory/viewpoint holds water, but it does seem to me like Disney gives their "original" characters more effort. I sort of get that. If it's theirs, they can market the heck out of it without any baggage. OT characters have a legacy of fandom that can prove, shall we say rebellious, when those characters/movies/story lines are mishandled.

 

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