AoS Third Edition

[Erta Wanderer]

Ok, got my Dominion Box today.

So, let me get this straight: reinforcements now mean that battleline Stegadons can be reinforced for free once, and then reinforced again and just pay for one extra Steggy?

I HAVE TO TRACK DOWN ALL OF THOSE SCATTERED CELESTIAL STAMPEDES ON THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW.

not quite. they have the single moniker and singles can't be reinforced

 

[Padre]

I wouldn't be surprised, particularly with the introduction of banners and musicians to the hobgoblin and ork models, to see Kruelboyz models be added into the O+G line when The Old World gets released. It also wouldn't surprise me to see a new wave of Chaos Dwarves be released for AoS, then be transitioned into TOW as well. Multiple games with the same models seems like a good call for GW.

 

[Christopher]

Ok, got my Dominion Box today.

So, let me get this straight: reinforcements now mean that battleline Stegadons can be reinforced for free once, and then reinforced again and just pay for one extra Steggy?

I HAVE TO TRACK DOWN ALL OF THOSE SCATTERED CELESTIAL STAMPEDES ON THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW.

What do you mean by free? As battle lines, yes, you can reinforce them twice, but you have to pay the points for three units.

 

[Cristhian MLR]

What do you mean by free? As battle lines, yes, you can reinforce them twice, but you have to pay the points for three units.

I readed again. You can't reinforce single units, but you can reinforce battlelines once without costs, and aagin paying again for the price.

At least as far as I readed again.

 

[Christopher]

I readed again. You can't reinforce single units, but you can reinforce battlelines once without costs, and aagin paying again for the price.

At least as far as I readed again.

Take a look at rule 25.4 Points Value in the Core Rules. "If you take a reinforced unit, double the points values of the unit. If you take a unit that has been reinforced twice, triple the points value of the unit."

And as far as I know, you can reinforce any unit that is not unique once, and battlelines twice in Matched Play. But there's a limit on the number of reinforcing units you can take--0-2 units in 1,000 point games and 0-4 units in 2,000 point games. That information is in the Pitched Battles Table on p. 9 of the General's Handbook.

 

[Canas]

Take a look at rule 25.4 Points Value in the Core Rules. "If you take a reinforced unit, double the points values of the unit. If you take a unit that has been reinforced twice, triple the points value of the unit."

And as far as I know, you can reinforce any unit that is not unique once, and battlelines twice in Matched Play. But there's a limit on the number of reinforcing units you can take--0-2 units in 1,000 point games and 0-4 units in 2,000 point games. That information is in the Pitched Battles Table on p. 9 of the General's Handbook.

you can reinforce units that are not "single" e.g. all heroes and behemoths are "single", Kroak is also "unique".

 

[Christopher]

you can reinforce units that are not "single" e.g. all heroes and behemoths are "single", Kroak is also "unique".

This is what happens when I decide to pretend like I know the rules!

 

[Cristhian MLR]

So, are we all forced to have just one artifact (or enhancements) per army instead of battalion, unless a specific battalion says otherwise?

Also, how does the reinforced units limit works? can I take up to 4 units reinforced thrice or I can only take four reinforcements in total, no matter if they were reinforced once or twice?

 

[Erta Wanderer]

So, are we all forced to have just one artifact (or enhancements) per army instead of battalion, unless a specific battalion says otherwise?

Also, how does the reinforced units limit works? can I take up to 4 units reinforced thrice or I can only take four reinforcements in total, no matter if they were reinforced once or twice?

yes you only get 1 artifact unless otherwise stated.

reinforcements are limited to 4 times tottal. if you make a 10 man into a 20 thats once if you make it into a 30 thats twice. you can only reinfoce once (10 to 20) unless the unit is battle line then you can do it twice (10 to 30). so in tottal you can have 2 30s, (or 15s if your starting number is 5) 2 20s and 1 30, or 4 20s

 

[Killer Angel]

So, are we all forced to have just one artifact (or enhancements) per army instead of battalion, unless a specific battalion says otherwise?

Yep, basically you get for free a set of enhancements, one of each type: command trait, spell, prayer, artefact...

if you want some more, you need to take one of the 2 battalions that grant one additional enhancement (the minimum requirement for these battalions is 3 heroes), and then you can pick one from the list. Keeping in mind that you cannot pick a second command trait.

 

[Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl]

I wouldn't be surprised, particularly with the introduction of banners and musicians to the hobgoblin and ork models, to see Kruelboyz models be added into the O+G line when The Old World gets released.

That would be good, the fact they are a mixture of Orcs and Goblins means they’re quite close to the original army style, and the range would certainly fit into Warhammer Fantasy.

It also wouldn't surprise me to see a new wave of Chaos Dwarves be released for AoS, then be transitioned into TOW as well. Multiple games with the same models seems like a good call for GW.

I’m certainly hoping that’s why GW deleted the Chaos Dwarf Forge World range. It’s about time they got the same treatment as every other army GW has developed.

 

[Canas]

Yep, basically you get for free a set of enhancements, one of each type: command trait, spell, prayer, artefact...

if you want some more, you need to take one of the 2 battalions that grant one additional enhancement (the minimum requirement for these battalions is 3 heroes), and then you can pick one from the list. Keeping in mind that you cannot pick a second command trait.

Important to note, for spells & prayers; 1 enhancement = 1 spell for every wizard/ 1 prayer for every priest in your army.

 

[xoid]

I was just looking through the Pitched Battles Profiles 2021 and I noticed that the legacy units are all gone. Has GW said anything about this, or have they just quietly been removed?

 

[Erta Wanderer]

I was just looking through the Pitched Battles Profiles 2021 and I noticed that the legacy units are all gone. Has GW said anything about this, or have they just quietly been removed?

legacy units haven't really been a thing for almost 2 years now. i don't even think GW still has the scrolls available unless you where grandfathered in

 

[xoid]

legacy units haven't really been a thing for almost 2 years now. i don't even think GW still has the scrolls available unless you where grandfathered in

Ah, ok, thanks. I don't really follow them, just noticed they were in the General's Handbook 2020 yesterday, when I was looking through it preparing for a game in a league that hasn't changed editions yet.

 

[Cuetzpal Pilli]

So, is anyone gonna pick up any of the new starter sets for 40k 9e--I mean AoS 3.0?

Just wanna put it out there; IMO, the starter sets for this edition are no where near the value of the Soul Wars/TempestSouls/StormStrike sets. It's sad that the format that was used for 2.0 is gone and was replaced by the 40k 9e release format with value present only for 1 of the included factions, and even then, a faction that I don't think is as big a hit as the Nighthaunt were; sorry K-Boyz! But I guess GW saw it work for 40k and thought it would work for AoS too...oh wellz! /Rant

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to from all this is the potential for Start Collecting boxes using the sprues from Soul Wars (maybe not all the sprues, but hopefully most of them!)

 

[Erta Wanderer]

Ah, ok, thanks. I don't really follow them, just noticed they were in the General's Handbook 2020 yesterday, when I was looking through it preparing for a game in a league that hasn't changed editions yet.

even if they where available they would be hopelessly out of date. most havent been updated since 8th or even 7th edition WFB

So, is anyone gonna pick up any of the new starter sets for 40k 9e--I mean AoS 3.0?

Just wanna put it out there; IMO, the starter sets for this edition are no where near the value of the Soul Wars/TempestSouls/StormStrike sets. It's sad that the format that was used for 2.0 is gone and was replaced by the 40k 9e release format with value present only for 1 of the included factions, and even then, a faction that I don't think is as big a hit as the Nighthaunt were; sorry K-Boyz! But I guess GW saw it work for 40k and thought it would work for AoS too...oh wellz! /Rant

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to from all this is the potential for Start Collecting boxes using the sprues from Soul Wars (maybe not all the sprues, but hopefully most of them!)

i have no interest in either faction so no

 

[xoid]

So, is anyone gonna pick up any of the new starter sets for 40k 9e--I mean AoS 3.0?

Just wanna put it out there; IMO, the starter sets for this edition are no where near the value of the Soul Wars/TempestSouls/StormStrike sets. It's sad that the format that was used for 2.0 is gone and was replaced by the 40k 9e release format with value present only for 1 of the included factions, and even then, a faction that I don't think is as big a hit as the Nighthaunt were; sorry K-Boyz! But I guess GW saw it work for 40k and thought it would work for AoS too...oh wellz! /Rant

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to from all this is the potential for Start Collecting boxes using the sprues from Soul Wars (maybe not all the sprues, but hopefully most of them!)

I think the Krewl Boyz look great, but I have no interest on spending the money on a new army right now.

 

[ChapterAquila92]

So, is anyone gonna pick up any of the new starter sets for 40k 9e--I mean AoS 3.0?

Just wanna put it out there; IMO, the starter sets for this edition are no where near the value of the Soul Wars/TempestSouls/StormStrike sets. It's sad that the format that was used for 2.0 is gone and was replaced by the 40k 9e release format with value present only for 1 of the included factions, and even then, a faction that I don't think is as big a hit as the Nighthaunt were; sorry K-Boyz! But I guess GW saw it work for 40k and thought it would work for AoS too...oh wellz! /Rant

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to from all this is the potential for Start Collecting boxes using the sprues from Soul Wars (maybe not all the sprues, but hopefully most of them!)

Sadly already have enough armies and conversion projects on the go at the moment, not just for AoS but also for 40k, Horus Heresy, Adeptus Titanicus, Necromunda, Warcry, Warhammer Ancient Battles, Flames of War, Black Seas, Bolt Action, and Victory at Sea.

 

[Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl]

So, is anyone gonna pick up any of the new starter sets for 40k 9e--I mean AoS 3.0?

Just wanna put it out there; IMO, the starter sets for this edition are no where near the value of the Soul Wars/TempestSouls/StormStrike sets. It's sad that the format that was used for 2.0 is gone and was replaced by the 40k 9e release format with value present only for 1 of the included factions, and even then, a faction that I don't think is as big a hit as the Nighthaunt were; sorry K-Boyz! But I guess GW saw it work for 40k and thought it would work for AoS too...oh wellz! /Rant

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to from all this is the potential for Start Collecting boxes using the sprues from Soul Wars (maybe not all the sprues, but hopefully most of them!)

I agree, I don’t like this new method of generating starter sets at all. The Extremis and Command Editions are largely pointless given you get no more actual models than the Harbinger/Elite Edition sets (I’d much rather have a large variety of models at start and get scenery later than a smaller variety of models and scenery in one set), and I’d much rather that they’d kept Indomitus and Dominion as the big sets and just produced the two smaller sets for budget boxes, as they did with Dark Imperium and Soul Wars (pity that those ones with the far inferior evil factions got the better set format while these ones with the better factions have a far worse format idea). Why on Earth GW changed the format just for a quick cash-grab with the limited editions is beyond me. Do they actually respect their community anymore?

I by far prefer the Kruleboyz to the Nighthaunt, and given the core rules have far more pages now I would consider buying one of the lower-cost boxes to get the rules without manslaughtering my printer plus some fun Orc and Goblin models, but like @ChapterAquila92 I have far too many projects on the go to start AoS yet - mostly Warhammer Fantasy (as I have to buy the models wherever I can find them as most of them are OOP) but also 40K, Middle Earth and SPQR.