I have taken a break from obsessively churning out World Anvil articles or filling out family trees, but Scarterra is never far from my thoughts.
I haven’t posted on this for a while, so I will post an open question and ask for you guys to share your thoughts on this topic. The topic being divine wisdom.
All About Oracles
Scarterra and Scaraqua have oracles in them. Oracles rare, but they are common enough that there is a term to describe them “oracles.”
Theoretically a divine spell caster can buy the one dot Divination power, then buy the two dot Divination power, then the three dot Divination power, then the four dot Divination, then become an oracle after having five dots of Divinations. These oracles will be referred to as adventurer oracles.
A rare few people are born oracles. 90+% of the time, people who are born oracles are otherwise unremarkable individuals except for their oracular ability (most of them are not adventurers, nobles, wizards, theurgists, warlords etc). These oracles will be referred to as one-trick ponies.
Actually it doesn't really matter what we call them, an oracle is an oracle.
Either way, all nine of my Nine have a few oracles. There are also a very rare number of oracles that can speak with
all the Nine. In Scarterra, Korus, Khemra, and Nami (the Neutral deities) have disproportionately more oracles than the other six because their theurgists have a specialization in Divination magic and Oracle power is the fifth level of Divination.
In Scaraqua, Divination is much more common so oracles would be a lot more common. Dalgari (Sea Zarthus), Heekma (Sea Khemra), Taedi (Sea Greymoria), and Mangcha (Sea Hallisan), Mubete (Sea Korus) all have a special aptitude for divination.
Oracles can ask one of the Nine a direct question and get an answer in reply. Technically, the god or goddess is probably not going to speak to the mortal directly, they are probably going to have a spirit minion relay the answer.
There is also the other issue. The Nine can also send a spirit messenger to tell mortals something, even if no one asked the question. This is how the Nine initially spread things like basic agriculture and basic metalworking principles. They can even say more specific things “This tree is sacred! Chop it down and you’ll regret it.”
For the rest of this thread, I’m going to talk about “oracles” but most of the time I mean “oracles and messenger spirits” because they can both fill the same societal niche.
Let’s talk about some in universe limitations on oracles and some metaplot limitations on universe. Here are my base assumptions. These base assumptions are not written in stone. I can change them.
Basic Assumptions, In Universe things that limit oracles.
The Nine are really old and really knowledgeable, but they not omniscient. They are not all knowing and they are not all seeing. All nine of the Nine can simply not know something or they can misinterpret something. The answer can be “I don’t know” or the answer could “Something wrong.”
If one of the Nine is asked about a future event, the best he or she can do is make an educated guess. Thus predicting the future is a lot harder than solving an ancient mystery.
The Nine are not morally flawless beings. Even with the limited framework of the classic nine D&D alignments, Maylar is Chaotic Evil, but he is not flawlessly Chaotic Evil.
The Nine can choose to keep a secret if they wish. The answer an oracle could receive is “None of your business.” or “I’ll tell it to you when you are ready.”
The Nine can choose to lie, either telling an outright falsehood or lie by omission.
It is common in fantasy and science fiction, especially science fiction, that all knowing beings are so alien and remote that they have trouble communicating with mere mortals. They might have the knowledge, but they don’t know how to put it into words the mortal understand. I could use this as a limiting factor, but based on everything I’ve written before now, this seems like a sloppy fit for Scarterra.
They could be vague or just be a smartass. I can picture that Nami would have more oracles than most of the rest of the Nine and she might answer questions in an unhelpful smartass way.
“Who will win tomorrow’s battle?”
“The army that is stronger, smarter, or luckier will win.”
“Where can I find the merfolk Queen?”
“In her throne room.”
Information Warfare
If one of the Nine sends a spirit messenger or answers an oracle, the other eight of the Nine will hear the message.
This one takes some examples. Let’s pretend for a second that Mera is the only one of the Nine that knows where the fabled Treasure Hoard of the Last Fakhari King is.
Let’s say a Tender Oracle asks Mera “Where can I find a literal ton of gold to donate to 100 orphanages and hospitals?”
Mera wants the gold to go to the orphans and tells the oracle where the last Fakhari Kings treasure barge sank into the sea, but now all the other deities overheard the message (or had spirit spies overhear the message). At which point the other eight deities can now send spirit messengers to tell
their followers where the treasure trove is.
Along similar lines, if Hallisan wants to tell one of his followers the secret Achille’s Heel of an enemy aligned with Maylar, Maylar will probably retaliate by spilling the beans on the secret weaknesses of more than a few Hallisan affiliated warriors.
This general tendency isn’t just for warriors. Prince’s looking for a political edge with secrets from the gods are probably going to get stonewalled by oracles because the Nine don’t want things to escalate to the point where every ruler and warlord is getting a constant stream of information from above.
But on the other hand, if Mera sends one or more spirit messengers telling mortals “If you take water from a suspect source and boil it before drinking it, you will probably not get sick.”
This probably annoys Greymoria and Maylar, but there is not much they can do about this in retaliation. Sure Greymoria is opposed to everything Mera does and Maylar wants to spread disease, but if they start a smear campaign saying “Don’t boil your water, it will make you more ill”, as soon as people test the competing divine proclamations, Mera’s message would be confirmed and word of mouth would spread. The knowledge will spread and all Greymoria and Maylar can do is to create a disease spewing monster in retaliation (but they were probably going to create a disease spewing monster anyway).
Story Reasons, Out of Universe things to limit oracles
It is really popular in fiction (going back thousands of years in fact) for prophecies to come true in ways that are unexpected. This is
really hard to do in an RPG because you have to make a prediction by what you think the characters will do, but if you are a writing a short story or novel, this works because the characters only think, speak, or act in the way you write them.
In an RPG, if I have a whole detective story built around solving a murder, then having a mouthpiece of the gods “The butler did it!” is going to kill a potential story. If a story arc can be derailed by one simple answer then the players
should not not receive that divine wisdom.
But if the nugget of divine wisdom will spur the characters to undertake an exciting quest, then I guess the players (or readers for a novel)
should get it.
In my opinion, it is impossible to make a complex and intriguing fantasy or sci-fi world with zero contradictions or inconsistencies. That said, I prefer to keep inconsistences to a minimum. If an oracle answers a type of question easily on Monday (because answering the question will advance the story) then refuses the same type of question a year later (because answering the question will derail the story), I need an in-universe justification for it.
Finally, I have the general notion that if something is politically controversial in the real world, then the Nine are going to stay silent about it because I’m a coward.
I actually thought, “What would the Nine’s stance on LGBT issues?” They would probably have nine different answers, but I don’t want to get into it. Even if I logically figured out, based on their individual goals and philosophies, “Maylar would take the stance X, Y, and Z, Mera would take the stance A, B, and C etc” it could easily be misconstrued as my opinion or endorsement. I consider myself Lawful Good, but that does not mean that Hallisan’s views are my views. That doesn’t mean every view Maylar has is wrong in my eyes.
So on any potentially controversial topic, the Nine’s mortal followers are going to
guess what their god or goddess wants and none of my priestly groups or their followers are unified block, so they are not going to agree, even with their colleagues. Mera’s Tenders with have different opinions on all sorts of things.
One major divide between the Tarrawan Tenders and the Walchese Tenders is families. The Terrawans believe that priests and priestesses of Mera should be encouraged to marry and have lots of children because Mera is the goddess of families. The Walchese believe that priests and priestesses of Mera should be celibate, so they can focus in the wider family that is all Mera worshipers everywhere.
Neither are right or wrong. Because the Tenders are usually non-confrontational peaceniks, when Terrawans and Walchese meet they usually agree to disagree on the clergy getting married thing. Even then it’s not so clear cut. There are Terrawans that are celibate and Walchese that are married. Sometimes Tenders even have children outside of marriage.
In general, I have the notion that the three Lawful deities’s followers usually support arranged marriages and focus on marriages that strengthen societal bonds whereas the three Chaotic deities followers tend to support romantic notions of following your heart (though for Maylar’s followers, “follow your heart” is often horrifying.)
The neutral deities fall in between. Mera’s followers generally want marriages that strengthen society
and work with the desires of the people involved. Korus’s generally don’t care either way because the next generation will happen with or without marriage ceremonies and formal bonds. Greymoria’s followers generally don’t care about marriage or child rearing, because they believe Greymoria doesn’t care.
On some level I don’t want to go too deep into this because marriage itself can be a controversial topic.
No oracle or messenger spirit spelled out how marriages should occur, that's something mortals have had to figure out themselves.
World building topics
Let’s forget epic heroes and dastardly villains for a second. Let us look at everyone else.
First off, let’s look at the oracle. Is the oracle allowed to lie or is the oracle forced to repeat his or her divine patron’s word verbatim? Maybe both. An oracle cannot lie if the deity wants to speak through him, but the oracle can pretend something she is saying is words from on high. This kind of influences how much autonomy an oracle has. Is the oracle a thinking, feeling person who can impact event by her volition or is she an object that exists to share the words of others and nothing more? Does the oracle feel like she has a gift or a curse? Both?
Knowledge is power. Land is power. Gold is power. Magic is power. Armies and weapons are power. While I’m sure I have more ground to cover, I’ve already covered in some detail how those in power in Scarterra try to regulate land, gold, magic, and weapons.
It’s pretty common in fiction for an evil tyrant to attempt to imprison or enslave an oracle to monopolize their wisdom. Even a non-evil ruler would probably like to regulate who can talk to an oracle and who cannot. I’m guessing that unless it was considered bad luck or unholy to harm an oracle, then most oracles, especially one trick pony oracles, would end up as prisoners or “honored guests” of the politically powerful.”
In a world with
real oracles, would that make hucksters and fake oracles more common or less common than in the real world? I honestly don't know.
Would there be very harsh punishments for fake oracles being caught? If the answer is yes, would it be possible to frame a real oracle as being a fake oracle?
It is common in fiction that oracles live in remote exotic places. Sometimes this might be a metaphysical requirement. Before a petitioner can talk to an oracle they have to climb a mountain, fight a monster, answer a series of riddles or go on a mini-quest. “To obtain knowledge, you must earn knowledge.” Sometimes this can enhance a story and sometimes it’s a needless distraction. “Oh
another side quest.”
I do like the idea that a petitioners asks a question and the oracle says "Go on this quest and then I will answer your question." and the petitioner finds the answer to his question in the course of undertaking his quest. Storytelling gold.
Of course, quests would be scaled. An epic quest for Bill the farmer would be a boring week for Steve the elite knight.
Let’s assume for a second, an oracle is not a prisoner and can go wherever she wants. An oracle might want to spread knowledge and get pleasure out of doing this. In which case the oracle would probably set up shop somewhere public. “Give me a small donation (so I can eat) and I will try to answer your question.” It’s possible that an oracle finds answering questions annoying and they try to hide and avoid people altogether. The middle ground is for the oracle to go somewhere remote behind a questing obstacle with the attitude “Well, if you can succeed on the quest to get to me, I guess you earned the right to talk to me.”
So the 99% of the masses who are not heroes or villains concerned with epic quests. Let’s pretend for a second that ordinary people have regular access to the oracles. I think oracles are likely to hear the same sorts of questions over and over again. They may or may not find this tedious or they might just accept this. After all, in the real world 90% of the things private investigators deal with is infidelity and most don’t quit their jobs out of boredom. As my friend said, “Why would an oracle care about repetitive questions as long as she is getting paid.”
The Nine (or their spirit messengers) might also get annoyed by petty questions, or maybe they accept petty questions as a fact of life.
I imagine half the questions oracles would get would be related to love and courtship.
“Who is the baby’s daddy?”
“Is John/Jane cheating on me?”
“How does John/Jane really feel about me?”
“Should I marry my daughter to John or look for someone else?
The Nine could probably answer flat questions about “Who is the daddy?” and is “Is so and so cheating?” pretty easily. Unless for some reason the spirit messenger to the oracle
lies. Maybe a Mera spirit wants to say “You’re the daddy” because it doesn’t want to break a family up. Maybe a Phidas spirit doesn’t want to destabilize a royal family and announce that the Phidas friendly crown prince is actually an illegitimate bastard.
Asking a god or goddess “What
should I do about my relationship with _____” Is probably folly. The Nine’s interpersonal relationships are not great. Even if their relationships were healthy, the differences between the Nine and their spirit minions are so different from mortals that what we consider normal mortal relationships would be alien to them. Imagine a fully sapient butterfly trying to explain to a human what it was like to be a caterpillar in a chrysalis.
Then there are going to be questions about one’s livelihood.
“Should I follow my dreams of being a musician or keep apprenticing in my uncle’s blacksmith forge?”
“Should I plant barley or rye next spring?”
“What should I invest my money in to make lots of money?”
I suppose an oracle of Korus could be able to tell a farmer what crop he should plant to get the biggest and an oracle of Phidas could be able to tell a farmer which cash crop is likely to be in demand next season, but that might be an overkill.
A regular low ranking priest or priestess of Korus (or any lay person with a green thumb) with no magic powers should be able to visit a farm, look at the soil, local weather patterns, availability of water and sun and be able to figure out where and when to plant various crops with a high degree of accuracy just from their Hearth Wisdom skill.
A regular low ranking priest or priestess of Phidas (or any canny merchant) with no magic powers should be able to tell you what items are likely to be in demand.
Much like asking a god or goddess for romantic advice is likely not to end well, asking a deity for life advice is probably folly. How is Khemra supposed to know if you’ll be happier as a blacksmith or a minstrel?
Finally, I think a lot of commoners would ask the medieval equivalent of this.
This could make things complicated if the item was stolen and not simply lost. Which I will transition away from peasants and back to princes.
Scarterra, like much of the feudal era of Earth, justice was in the hands of the local lord. Knights, barons, counts, dukes, and kings were often judge and jury. Sometimes, there were full time judges but they were nearly always direct appointees of the local lords and the local lords can usually override their own appointees.
Corruption and cronyism of course influenced judgments but not every prince was a scammer who cared nothing for truth or justice. If there is a crime committed, even evil princes want to figure out accurately who is actual guilty or innocent.
So should oracles be willing and able to provide evidence in crimes?
Logically, I think it’s something the oracles and messenger spirits would be willing
and able to do, but for storytelling purposes, it can easily derail stories, as in all sorts of fiction, it is often the case that no one is 100% sure if the results of court rulings were just and accurate or not.
Anyway, I am asking my online buddies to share any and all interesting thoughts on how to handle oracles and spirit messengers.