AoS NEW *rumor*

[Dread Saurian]

Well the problem is that you end up having to tell that one story over and over again.

the space marines are a better frame work, because after they are selected they can go off and do what they want.


The emperor is a fantastic story. A man on life support waiting for something? Who knows?

great very open to interpretation.

The order factions in AoS?

the thing is, chaos is one entity with different expressions.

Order is multiple gods, of equal standing, but separate?

So like the Greek gods but independent?

The chaos gods are clearly defined and you know what they are about.

but all the order gods each do everything.

with 40k it’s simple to understand what’s going on. You just have to know the emperors story.

In aos, it’s random things happening, for inconsisten reasons.

War hammer fantasy was great lore. Because it was all logical. You had the empire you had chaos. The good factions unite against chaos.
etc.

it was simple and small scale. Aos is huge scale with gods and Demi gods etc. But the more big things they add like that, the more the intrigue is diminished. The story ends up feeling light and small.

the stormcast would be better, if they were just some weird monestry of monks. And no one really knew what they were doing.

Space marines are a terrible framework.
The biggest problem with space marines is the refusal to kill off named characters. MAC, Dante, Gabriel seth, abbadon a lot of space wolves and a shitload of ultras all should be dead.

 

[Intwidumalah]

Space marines are a terrible framework.
The biggest problem with space marines is the refusal to kill off named characters. MAC, Dante, Gabriel seth, abbadon a lot of space wolves and a shitload of ultras all should be dead.

that’s gw. But that’s not an absolute. They can die. They don’t have infinity respawn.

 

[Dread Saurian]

that’s gw. But that’s not an absolute. They can die. They don’t have infinity respawn.

space marines are good because you can tell a small story totally detached from a god that’s watching them all the time and keeps saving them.

There are clearly defined reasons why only so many marines can exsist. And they are just genetically enhanced men. Not immortal Demi gods.


Sigmar should just make everyone a stormcast with infinity respawn and he can win aos!

nagash and chaos gods won’t have any souls to collect.

You're in an AOS forum for the seraphon faction arguing about AOS vs 40k. Quite frankly I don't have to be nice about this. Go to the great 40k thread if you want to talk about and discuss 40k. Not the rumor sub if you need the link I can give it to you

 

[Intwidumalah]

You're in an AOS forum for the seraphon faction arguing about AOS vs 40k. Quite frankly I don't have to be nice about this. Go to the great 40k thread if you want to talk about and discuss 40k. Not the rumor sub if you need the link I can give it to you

fair point,

 

[Togetic]

Also why doesn’t sigmar just make everyone a stirmcadt eternal, and he has won age of sigmar?

Because he gives all of them a piece of himself, and equips them with armor forged from the solid core of the world that was, partially.

the other part is that their nature as uncorruptable isn’t any innate bit of their physiology or something, it’s because they’re selected based on being a good person. It doesn’t matter if they were a warrior in life, the philosophy at play is that combat prowess can be trained but innate personality can’t be.

Space marines are limited by law and a single resource they have to keep and harvest from their dead, stormcast are similarly limited but only by the strength of character necessary to make one. A baker who aims to keeps his community fed above all, a doctor who works themselves to the bone to help people, there’s a limited amount of people who’re as innately good as Sigmar desires.

That’s why they’re interesting compared to space marines imo, they’re defined by who they used to be and their humanity, so each reforging loses an intricate piece of their being, the further they go from their humanity the further they go from the person who deserved to be reforged

 

[Killer Angel]

That’s why they’re interesting compared to space marines imo, they’re defined by who they used to be and their humanity, so each reforging loses an intricate piece of their being, the further they go from their humanity the further they go from the person who deserved to be reforged

Indeed.
There are plenty (well, at least some) official short stories, where you can clearly see that every time a stormcast is reforged, he loses a part of his old humanity, to the point they become dangerously similar to a crossover between Robocop and Judge Dredd.

 

[MackiMac]

I think whenever nighthaunt get updated, that they will get a new unit made from the captured stormcast souls

 

[Jason839]

Indeed.
There are plenty (well, at least some) official short stories, where you can clearly see that every time a stormcast is reforged, he loses a part of his old humanity, to the point they become dangerously similar to a crossover between Robocop and Judge Dredd.

Thats part of why Kroak reviving Gardus was one of my favorite parts in the Belakor story. Sigmar chooses to reforge these people and in the process loses part of their humanity and kroak did it with just a thought.

 

[Erta Wanderer]

wouldn't surprise me. it would also give them a heavy unit and they could use that.

 

[JakeusMaxemus]

I'm not sorry when I say that saurus do not need a new model before the kroxigors. The saurus model doesn't look goofy. It's out of date yes but not bad.

You're living in a different reality lol.
You're just wrong. The saurus need updating way more than the kroxigors.

 

[Erta Wanderer]

You're living in a different reality lol.
You're just wrong. The saurus need updating way more than the kroxigors.

lets call it a draw. they are both terrible

 

[Killer Angel]

Saurus' model was really good, and it's still not bad.
Alas, it was made with the old rank & files system, so the pose is pretty static.

 

[LordBaconBane]

lets call it a draw. they are both terrible

 

[Aginor]

I don't really mind either of the two.
But Krox are still finecast so they go first. Together with new rules because last I played them they still sucked.

 

[Tyranitar]

Well...this is really heartbreaking. I was hoping that lizard meant more for us, especially after seeing kroak. Why is it even on this model? So disappointing. It's probably symbolic of Kragnos smacking down lizardmen in the new book...

 

[Jason839]

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Well...this is really heartbreaking. I was hoping that lizard meant more for us, especially after seeing kroak. Why is it even on this model? So disappointing. It's probably symbolic of Kragnos smacking down lizardmen in the new book...

Anyone else think the Kragnos model has a disproportionally small head?

 

[Sebbs]

Anyone else think the Kragnos model has a disproportionally small head?

Agreed, very small face. The open mouth option sort of looks like a Sarlacc pit from the front (on the pictures)

 

[Canas]

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Well...this is really heartbreaking. I was hoping that lizard meant more for us, especially after seeing kroak. Why is it even on this model? So disappointing. It's probably symbolic of Kragnos smacking down lizardmen in the new book...

well that's rather a random detail given that he has no link with lizards otherwise...

 

[Killer Angel]

well that's rather a random detail given that he has no link with lizards otherwise...

Wasn't he "imprisoned" by Kroak?

But yeah, in his portfolio there's literally no connection to lizards

 

[Tyranitar]

Anyone else think the Kragnos model has a disproportionally small head?

Yeah my first thought when I saw the model was "he looks really cool...but the face is pretty derpzone"