This is what one of my friends said whom I talk to pretty regularly about AOS, painting, etc about:
"Sorry, I got busy, but yeah, seems really powerful, I'll try and break down some of the main concerns but by AOS rules it can do some pretty ridiculously things by itself, let alone with support. I don't know how balanced you really want it or of it's supposed to be supercharged by flavour. All the flavour and fluff seems cool though and thematic.
So like for example Titanic stomp does a flat 6 with a minimum 2 attacks, even for just the beginning that's about 6 damage non variable on average, let alone maxed out at 72 damage if you hit everything, and since damage bleeds over in AOS you could wipe out very close to 1000-1500 points of footman in a 2k point game in one hit. That's just the list theory I have looking at that.
(Hebpostes the Khorne dragon sheet) So this stat sheet costs 1200 and it has less wounds, less reliable damage, 2" longer only to move, and no flat 6 damage hits. It's white hot balefire is it's strongest weapon for damage and only gets 3 attacks with it. So I think to make it fairer it should be comparable in points. Because right now it hits like a nuclear warhead and could wipe any of my armies out by itself, let alone with 1400 additional points backing it up
Again, this is just what I'm thinking so feel free to disagree if you'd like. I'm just analyzing from my own experience"
But my response was this:
(posted Dread Saurian Warscroll)
This is the updated Dread Saurian which I think is the more comparable monster, its been updated for the current book.
35 wounds, 8 bravery, 4+ save and roughly the same move characteristic in the damage table.
Damage is semi comparable to the armoured tail damage of D6 vs 6 (though Im guessing D6 is weaker than straight 6?)
TL is supposed to be the largest and arguably strongest creature from The World That Was, so trying to reflect that while being balanced as possible
With the comparison of the new Dread which is either 510 or 420 points, does that change your mind at all? The TL being at 600 points atm.
Im not against changing things, just wanted to bring that point up"
No response yet but im sure he will in time.
Now the big thing about peoples initial reaction when seeing the waracroll is basically that theres a lot there, rhey see high damage, etc and kinda freak out. The issue here is that they forget all the other issues the player will have to deal with:
1. Her pure size: Easily targeted by both magic and ranged - she cant hide. This is leads to a related issue if that she likely wont be in charging range on her first turn. This also limits her on tables with a lot of scenery, will she even be able to move?
2. As
@ILKAIN point out, she has spells, but you have to choose which to use, cant use both.
3. You can damage your own army, not just wounding but also bravery stats
4.
Sarcastically Atleast she doesnt have a bite that can be buffed....
Basically whenever I post these final rules to the world im gonna do a long post reminding people of these other balancing attempts and making the player be more tactical than just a powerhouse unit. Im definitely up for changing things if proven too strong, but I also want it to be worthy of a Thunder Lizard.
So the question is, is his points valid or is she considered balance due to these other limitations?
Anyway, let me know what you think! survivablity, balance, fun, etc...!
Here is a slightly updated Warscroll, the wounds on the damage table were adjusted. It was pointed out to me that she dropped too quickly, how does it look now?
