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I just find it a little bit odd that you ranked 2 above 1. I would love to hear your rationale for that. I felt like #2 added very little. They repeated the same jokes and motiffs. They kept it fresh enough that I was not tired of the jokes and motiffs, so it was still a good movie, but I just cannot comprehend #2 was better.
Thank you sir. To be fair, I can't (nor would I intend to) make the statement that it is the better of the two movies, only that I liked it more. I fully accept that most people like the first one better. I do love both of the movies, I just like the second one a touch better.You have not sway me to say that Guaridans 2 is better than Guardians 1. But you have swayed me to say "Nightbringer believes Guardians 2 was the better movie and he has well-reasoned explanations to support his stance."
Which is pretty funny because it comes from one of the more light-hearted and comedic entry of the MCU.I do agree with your sentiment that Yondu was the most meaningful death in the MCU movies.
That's true, but it did make the Ravager funeral sequence all the more emotional in the end. A bit of a trade off.I do wish it was not telegraphed so much. As soon as they talked about Yondu not getting a proper funeral I knew he was going to die and then get a proper funeral.
Fair enough. I felt it to be perfectly in line with his character. He loves to steal and he doesn't seem to have too much respect for the Sovereign race anyways.I thought Rocket's theft of the batteries was a bit too far. I loathed that plot driver. His character isn't that greedy and reckless. He has a survival instinct and a desire to be part of the group.

I thought the Thor + Guardians interaction was far better in Infinity War.Endgame with Thor & the Guardians was amazing though.
That makes sense, us liking opposite things and all (except Iron Man 1 which we both seem to rate highly)I really liked Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, and the Ironman movies, while Guardians of the Galaxy are comparatively annoying to me.
Being an engineer myself Ironman is just very relatable for me I guess. He has no super strength and no magic, but he can keep up with gods and stuff because he builds great technology.except Iron Man 1 which we both seem to rate highly
Not only can he keep up, but often he leads the way!but he can keep up with gods and stuff because he builds great technology.
I thought the Thor + Guardians interaction was far better in Infinity War.
That makes sense, us liking opposite things and all (except Iron Man 1 which we both seem to rate highly)
That's because his companions were poorly developed. That does not mean that they could have worked exceptionally well if the film focused on it.I did not like this. In fact, while Hemsworth is a fine actor and very handsome, I do not think he works well as part of ensemble. Remember Thor's troupe of sidekick adventuring companions? You forgot them? Of course you did, Hemsworth didn't pay attention to them, so why should you?
Going into the weeds. Apart from Thanos, Loki, and Killmonger, I believe the other villains are adequate at best.
Baron Zemo from Civil War was absolutely fantastic. I know he is not a traditional villain in the MCU (lacking any super powers), but he did manage to overcome individuals far stronger than him and attain his goal (at least for a while) through careful planning and intellect. A man claims "victory" against the gods. He may not be as memorable because he doesn't have a costume and powers, but he is unique among the MCU villains.
I would deem him as being a forgetable villain because I literally forgotten about him completely. I think it cheapens the real division between the two sides in the Civil War that there was a third party manipulating him.
This is true... but at least we can agree that Captain Marvel sucks! That is all that is needed.I guess we have different tastes in characters.
That's a good point. I agree with you that there are major moments in the second movie that were setup by the first movie.From my perspective with the Guardians debate, I would say that as a stand alone film, the first film is probably better but I think I enjoyed the second one more. I think it plays into something that I find an awful lot in movies, TV and even music. The original is probably the best, but provided you’ve seen it, you’ll probably get more satisfaction from having it referenced in an awesome way in a later film than you do watching it the first time. To give an example, one of the best parts of the Transformers film series in my opinion (and indeed possibly the only part that is actually good, and extremely good at that) is Steve Jablonsky’s soundtrack. There are numerous themes in the original soundtrack, all of which are extremely good, such as this one:
However, assuming you’ve already heard that theme and have the personal connection to it, I would say that you will probably get more satisfaction from hearing it repeated again in the later films in a big satisfying way, as here:
Than it is hearing the original. If you were to take the two songs by themselves, the first is probably better and stands on its own two feet more, but when you have that history and association, you will probably enjoy the second more.
I’d say that Avengers Infinity War and Endgame are probably the two biggest examples of this - I think it’s fair to say that your enjoyment of them is probably equal to the product of the amount of MCU films you’ve seen beforehand. On their own, they’re perfectly good but probably not as good as, say, Civil War. But, having seen Civil War, that scene near the end of Endgame (I won’t go into detail but if you’ve seen it you know the one I mean) becomes far more satisfying and powerful than what features in Civil War precisely because you have that pre-existing connection with it.
This concept is probably part of the driving force behind the whole “cashing in on nostalgia” thing we’ve had going, and I personally find it an interesting one, and definitely one with truth behind it in my opinion (Rogue One is a good film but it probably wouldn’t be my favourite if it wasn’t for all the other satisfying nods to the others!). Certainly though, I think it provides a good explanation on how the first Guardians can be seen as perhaps a better film but the second one ending up as your favourite!
To be honest, I think Endgame takes a bit away from it. I still like Endgame, but I like Infinity War much more!However I notice we seem to have a different taste there. Infinity War was a bit meh for me. I see the potential and I see why many people liked it, but it wasn't my cup of tea. Maybe together with Endgame it becomes better (IMO it is unfair to judge connected stories without having seen all parts).

So why haven't you gotten around to watching Endgame yet? You've clearly seen most of the MCU movies, have you gotten bored with them?