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AoS Splitting Attacks

A_Reptile_Dysfunction
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A_Reptile_Dysfunction

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So, I have a Sunblood in combat with 2 separate heroes. Can I declare that I want to bite one of the heroes and hit the other with my hand weapon?
 
A_Reptile_Dysfunction said:
So, I have a Sunblood in combat with 2 separate heroes. Can I declare that I want to bite one of the heroes and hit the other with my hand weapon?
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Yes.

However, you have to declare where every attack will be targeted before you make any of them. You can attack any target you are in range to attack.
 
Perfect, I thought that’s how it read in the ‘Picking Targets’ section of the core rules but my opponent seemed to think otherwise.

Also are the 3 new command abilities in the GHB19 (all out defence/attack/volley) in addition to or a replacement of the previous ones such as ‘Inspiring Presence’?
 
Canas said:
In addition to.
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Thanks! Is this written down anywhere? I wanted to re-roll my charge with sunblood and was told that those particular CA had been replaced by new ones in GHB19.

Seems my Opponent was a bit of a WAAC type. He also tried to tell me I couldn’t use LOSAT once my general was dead and that sunclaw Starhost didn’t exist as it wasn’t in GHB19.
 
A_Reptile_Dysfunction said:
Thanks! Is this written down anywhere? I wanted to re-roll my charge with sunblood and was told that those particular CA had been replaced by new ones in GHB19.
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Should be in the GHB where the new ones are written down. I'l look it up once I get home from work (and if I remember :P)

A_Reptile_Dysfunction said:
Seems my Opponent was a bit of a WAAC type. He also tried to tell me I couldn’t use LOSAT once my general was dead and that sunclaw Starhost didn’t exist as it wasn’t in GHB19.
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Well you're opponent is wrong to the point it almost feels like he's trying to cheat.. Cuz that's quite some absurbd claims.
 
Canas said:
Should be in the GHB where the new ones are written down. I'l look it up once I get home from work (and if I remember :p)
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We did have a look in the GHB19 and it didn’t mention the old command abilities, only the new ones under ‘Pitched Battles’. Although if you know elsewhere in the book where it clarifies that would be great!



Canas said:
Well you're opponent is wrong to the point it almost feels like he's trying to cheat.. Cuz that's quite some absurd claims.
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I don’t think he was trying to cheat. We are both old WHFB players still learning the new system although he is overly competitive for a learning environment.
 
A_Reptile_Dysfunction said:
We did have a look in the GHB19 and it didn’t mention the old command abilities, only the new ones under ‘Pitched Battles’. Although if you know elsewhere in the book where it clarifies that would be great!
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The regular command abilities are in the core rules, because they apply to all game modes.

If the ones in the pitched battles section of the GHB were used instead of them then the GHB would say so.
 
A_Reptile_Dysfunction said:
We did have a look in the GHB19 and it didn’t mention the old command abilities, only the new ones under ‘Pitched Battles’. Although if you know elsewhere in the book where it clarifies that would be great!
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Where the new ones are listed it should say something along the lines of "you have these additional command abilities" or "in addition to your regular command abilities" etc. In general, unless it's explicitly stated that rule X overwrites rule Y rule Y will still hold.

A_Reptile_Dysfunction said:
I don’t think he was trying to cheat. We are both old WHFB players still learning the new system although he is overly competitive for a learning environment.
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Possibly :p
 
Thanks for the clarifications!

Last one I promise! ;)

Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage, does it get stronger as it takes more damage or get weaker?

The reason I ask is because the damage table states 13+ when it only has 14 wounds.

13+ is 13 & 14 but at 14 damage taken it would be dead so why show a stat line for it and not just print it as 13?

Unless it works the way I think it does and it means that if the bloodthirster has 13+ wounds (as opposed to taken 13+) it’s at its weakest, getting stronger the more wounds it takes.
 
It gets weaker the more it's wounded. So at 13+ wounds suffered it is at its weakest.

The reason they write it down like this, on every damage table, is cuz it's sometimes possible to increase the wounds value of a model, for example using an artifact or spell. By writing X+ in the last row they guarantee the table remains correct no matter how much you'd manage to buff the model with extra wounds.

As an example if they just wrote 13 suffered wounds suffered instead of 13+, and you'd somehow manage to buff your bloodthrister to have 15 wounds he could be alive with 14 wounds suffered and the table wouldn't cover that situation. But by writing down 13+ that situation is still covered.
 
So, your opponent said Sunclaw wasn't useable because it wasn't in the GHB? There are Matched Play Points cost for the Battalion and it is literally a requirement to use Fangs of Sotek, both of which are in the GHB.
 
Yeah he came to that conclusion eventually once I pointed that out and asked him to read LoSaT carefully. I was just using it as an example of his behaviour.

He saw only DT and FoS as entries and immediately assumed that they were the only ones allowed by the most up to date ruleset. Similar situation to the Command Abilities which I eventually conceded as I couldn’t find anything in the GHB19 that says the new ones are as well as, which meant I couldn’t reroll my snake eyes to charge with sunblood.
 
what is WAAC? other than how "Whack" that rules interpretation was lmao
 
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