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Helas

I miss the damage in my Seraphon army, I win the games only about the mission objectives but my opponents kills almost always my entire army, my army is missing the damage to kill the 30 modells blocks or his monster with 14 wounds.

last time I played (seraphon against slaanesh) and I played 2x 40's Saurus Warriors 1x 10 Saurus Warriors , Saurus Sunblood, Skink Starpriest, Slann Starmaster and the battalion Sunclaw Starhost , but I had no chance in close combat, my opponent killed my two blocks of 40 Saurus Warriors with his demons in just one round :(
 
So first off, your idea of a buffed up sunclaw and the support you used was correct. A buffed up sunclaw starhost with a max block of saurus warriors is formidable, especially with buffs. However I do think you are missing out on a few things here that very critical, especially what your opponent was playing, what artifacts were used, as well as more info on the battle. So here are my suggestions on killing units-

My (biased) usual tip- use a carnosaur! They excel at taking out large monsters, preferably using an oldblood with doppelgänger cloak, or a scar vet with sword of judgment and spear. Using a great blade on scar vet is ok, but the warblade is lame.
Bastiladons or EotG are both good choices and are very capable of dealing high amounts of damage to enemy models and units.
However a lot of people do agree that Ripperdactyls are excellent units for killing with their volume of attacks.

So my best suggestion is trying a list like this at 2000 points

Allegiance: Seraphon
Mortal Realm: Ulgu

Leaders
Slann Starmaster (260)
- General
- Trait: Great Rememberer
- Spell: Meteoric Convocation
Saurus Sunblood (120)
- Artefact: Dimensional Blade
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement
Skink Starpriest (80)
- Spell: Meteoric Convocation

Battleline
40 x Saurus Warriors (330)
- Spears
40 x Saurus Warriors (330)
- Spears
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs

Units
9 x Ripperdactyl Riders (420)

Battalions
Sunclaw Starhost (130)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 147
 
Thx for your Answere.

I also wanted to take Saurus Oldblood (for re-roll wound rolls of 1 for Saurus Warriors) and Saurus Scar Veteran on Carnosaur (for Command Abilitie: +attack for hit roll of 6+) for extra buffs, but I had no points left, we played 1500 points.

Ripperdactyl Riders I summoned with summon points, but they were also killed by the demons immediately :(
 
Diablo said:
Thx for your Answere.

I also wanted to take Saurus Oldblood (for re-roll wound rolls of 1 for Saurus Warriors) and Saurus Scar Veteran on Carnosaur (for Command Abilitie: +attack for hit roll of 6+) for extra buffs, but I had no points left, we played 1500 points.

Ripperdactyl Riders I summoned with summon points, but they were also killed by the demons immediately :(
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1500 points, alrighty, I can work something out. But those demons killing ripperdactyls immediately?! What was your opponent playing?!? Alright, how is this list
Allegiance: Seraphon
Mortal Realm: Ulgu

Leaders
Slann Starmaster (260)
- General
- Trait: Great Rememberer
- Spell: Meteoric Convocation
Saurus Sunblood (120)
- Artefact: Dimensional Blade
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Sword of Judgement

Battleline
40 x Saurus Warriors (330)
- Spears
40 x Saurus Warriors (330)
- Spears
10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
- Clubs

Battalions
Sunclaw Starhost (130)

Total: 1500 / 1500
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 116

So the plan is to summon in the starpriest while getting in that awesome ability from the scar vet
 
He played the following:

Allegiance: Slaanesh

Leaders
Keeper of Secrets (360)
- Ritual Knife
Keeper of Secrets (360)
- Ritual Knife

Battleline
30 x Daemonettes (300)
30 x Daemonettes (300)
10 x Daemonettes (110)

Endless Spells / Terrain
Mesmerising Mirror (60)

Total: 1490 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 98

With the stupid ability an enemy unit can only fight on the 2+ at the end of the combat phase.
And the Keeper of Secrets makes so bad Damage,
 
I will need to examine that list more, but I am guessing your opponent only wiped those two blocks either from luck or some serious stretches of the rules.

Against daemons, if you have them, try Bastiladons as they have excellent characteristics against chaos daemons which would be a huge help against them
 
Diablo said:
Helas

I miss the damage in my Seraphon army, I win the games only about the mission objectives but my opponents kills almost always my entire army, my army is missing the damage to kill the 30 modells blocks or his monster with 14 wounds.

last time I played (seraphon against slaanesh) and I played 2x 40's Saurus Warriors 1x 10 Saurus Warriors , Saurus Sunblood, Skink Starpriest, Slann Starmaster and the battalion Sunclaw Starhost , but I had no chance in close combat, my opponent killed my two blocks of 40 Saurus Warriors with his demons in just one round :(
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well, barring some exceptions (facing daemons and field bastiladons), keep in mind one thing:
we are an army with great abilities, but outdated warscrolls, with poor performance when compared to the units of the new armies.
You will rarely find yourself in the position of winning because you deal more damage. We usually win by war of attrition, feeding summoned units to the enemy, eroding its defenses, losing more models and more units but winning tnx to mobility and objectives control.
 
Yes, I've noticed that, especially when I compare my Seraphon army with my Flesh Eater Courts and Beastclaw Raiders Army. That's why the thread that I miss the "bums" ;D
 
Diablo said:
That's why the thread that I miss the "bums" ;D
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Either you are german, or I don't get why you would need homeless people in your army ;). You're lacking punch, so you could try two Bastiladons, lasering his keepers. Preferrably paired with a saurus Standard Bearer and hiding behind 40 Saurus Warriors. Salamanders could also be viable. What is in your model pool?
 
yes im from German btw Austria ;) But with BUMS i mean BOOOOM ;D

Workschmock said:
What is in your model pool?
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You mean my Modell-list ?

I have:

1x Lord Kroak

1x Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur

2x Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur

1x Troglodon

2x Bastiladon (Sunbeam)

1x Bastiladon (Sotek)

2x Stegadon (Engine Of The Gods)

9x Ripperdactyl Riders

4x Razordon

12x Skink Handlers

1x Saurus Astrolith Bearer

3x Skink Starpriest

2x Saurus Oldblood

34x Saurus Guards

16x Saurus Knights

158x Saurus Warriors

153x Skinks

5x Chamelen Skinks

1x Slann Starmaster

3x Terradon Riders

4x Fleckkröte

1x Tiktaq'to

1x Saurus Sunblood

1x Saurus Eternity Warden

3x Kroxigor


BUT, I just wanted to play a Saurus Army List and not always the default list (Skinks + Ripperdactyl Riders + Bastiladon).
 
Diablo said:
yes im from German btw Austria ;) But with BUMS i mean BOOOOM ;D

BUT, I just wanted to play a Saurus Army List and not always the default list (Skinks + Ripperdactyl Riders + Bastiladon).
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Ja mein Freund, das habe ich verstanden. Im Angesicht stärkerer Armeen kann ein wenig mehr Bumms wirklich nicht schaden ;)

Wow, okay, you've got almost everything, so you are flexible. What about 2 Laser-dons, Astrolith, 2 Stegadons (Bows), 40 Saurus (Spears), 2x10 Saurus (Swords), some Knights to block 30 deamonettes for one round, or skinks, something to take objectives or a summoning slann to be even more flexible. Sunblood to buff Saurus. Snipe those pesky Keepers. Razordons vs. Mass? I'd love to recommend more Saurians, but against first strike slaaneshi... just counter-productive
 
Diablo said:
You mean my Modell-list ?

I have:

1x Lord Kroak

1x Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur

2x Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur

1x Troglodon

2x Bastiladon (Sunbeam)

1x Bastiladon (Sotek)

2x Stegadon (Engine Of The Gods)

9x Ripperdactyl Riders

4x Razordon

12x Skink Handlers

1x Saurus Astrolith Bearer

3x Skink Starpriest

2x Saurus Oldblood

34x Saurus Guards

16x Saurus Knights

158x Saurus Warriors

153x Skinks

5x Chamelen Skinks

1x Slann Starmaster

3x Terradon Riders

4x Fleckkröte

1x Tiktaq'to

1x Saurus Sunblood

1x Saurus Eternity Warden

3x Kroxigor


BUT, I just wanted to play a Saurus Army List and not always the default list (Skinks + Ripperdactyl Riders + Bastiladon).
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You clearly must follow the link in my sig and join the great models thread lists.

;)
 
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