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Star Trek vs. Star Wars (and a collection of memes)

Star Trek or Star Wars; which do you like better?

  • Star Trek

    Votes: 19 23.8%

  • Star Wars

    Votes: 61 76.3%
  • Total voters
    80
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I think he tried but Palpatine was filled to the brim with the dark side and he was prepared, the Jedi clearly didn't fully understand how powerful he was.
Who would have thought he'd be strong enough to fight against four Jedi Masters at the same time?
They probably thought he would be around or a bit above Dooku's power level and two Jedi was enough for Dooku. So they sent four masters of which three IIRC were council members and three of them were pretty great lightsaber and force combatants. Fisto, Kolar and Windu all were famous duelists.

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Correction: ALL of them were council members. And Tiin was famous for his foresight into the future. Palpatine clouded his vision though, he didn't see it coming.
 
Aginor said:
I think he tried but Palpatine was filled to the brim with the dark side and he was prepared, the Jedi clearly didn't fully understand how powerful he was.
Who would have thought he'd be strong enough to fight against four Jedi Masters at the same time?
They probably thought he would be around or a bit above Dooku's power level and two Jedi was enough for Dooku. So they sent four masters of which three IIRC were council members and three of them were pretty great lightsaber and force combatants. Fisto, Kolar and Windu all were famous duelists.

Edit:
Correction: ALL of them were council members. And Tiin was famous for his foresight into the future. Palpatine clouded his vision though, he didn't see it coming.
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That scene in the movie always felt a little bit wonky. They didn't seem to put up any fight at all and fell to highly telegraphed strikes. I really wish they would have done better with that scene. The point was to show the power and skill of Sidious, but instead it just made the Jedi look incompetent. Once the 3 Jedi were eliminated however, the Sidious vs Windu fight was good.
 
Yeah.
The Prequels are full of such things that were good ideas but absolutely poorly executed. Thank you George Lucas who wanted to do everything himself and fired advisors who tried to help.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
That scene in the movie always felt a little bit wonky. They didn't seem to put up any fight at all and fell to highly telegraphed strikes. I really wish they would have done better with that scene. The point was to show the power and skill of Sidious, but instead it just made the Jedi look incompetent. Once the 3 Jedi were eliminated however, the Sidious vs Windu fight was good.
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Well there is evidence that Kit Fisto survived, as he was taken down near the door and Mace steps over the body, but later on in the fight, the body is gone. It's probably due to it not being the most attention-to-detail filled fight, but it gives Lucasfilm an excuse to cover their mistakes and bring back a cool character, so why not?
 
Wasn't it clear from the novelization (which is also canon) that he indeed died? I admit I didn't read it but I thought I read about it somewhere...
 
ravagekitteh said:
Well there is evidence that Kit Fisto survived, as he was taken down near the door and Mace steps over the body, but later on in the fight, the body is gone. It's probably due to it not being the most attention-to-detail filled fight, but it gives Lucasfilm an excuse to cover their mistakes and bring back a cool character, so why not?
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I'd rather they not. It's not because Kit Fisto isn't a great character, but they can't keep going back to that very same well repeatedly. Darth Maul dies... no wait he doesn't. Boba Fett dies... no wait he doesn't.

If they overuse that mechanic, then things begin to lose meaning in the story as there really isn't any risk, substance or finality to anything.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
Boba Fett dies... no wait he doesn't.
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He is dead in Canon, and he should be dead. I certainly think he is dead. Just as I believe the Tyranids slaughtered the Blood Angels on Baal, I Think Boba Fett is dead, because he was an overrated character and deserved to die.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
He is dead in Canon, and he should be dead.
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More accurately he has been retconned to be dead. That is the case only because of Disney's decision to retcon the EU. It just depends on how much emphasis or weight you put on that ruling.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I Think Boba Fett is dead, because he was an overrated character and deserved to die.
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I think they had a cool setup for him in episode V, and then completely ruined him in episode VI. I've never been a big fan of him myself, but I can acknowledge that he had potential before the events that unfolded in the Return of the Jedi. Great concept but extremely poor execution!
 
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