8th Ed. LIZARD-Hammer (building on 8TH-hammer)

[Scalenex]

1. Get rid of pre-measuring. Helps with sniper-cannons and the like

I bear much dislike for games you can't pre-measure in. That rewards a skill that should have nothing to do with tactics, army building, or painting.

That's one of my main grouses with Warmahordes and earlier editions of Warhammer Fantasy.

 

[Pinktaco]

Finally finished cruising through this whole thread. Tons of great ideas scattered about! Are we consolidating these anywhere?

The only things I haven't seen added that I thought we have discussed in one form or another on L-O:

1. Get rid of pre-measuring. Helps with sniper-cannons and the like.
2. Give the Oracle on the Troggy the Arcane Unforging spell. Matches the fluff and points cost of the model.

Pre measuring is a part of the game and leaving it out will not make for an easier game if you're new to it. There are other ways to create balance in the force.

While I absolutely agree on the troglodon I think it's too soon. I'm more for Scalenex' approach of taking small steps, first one should be a point decrease and then later on we can thinker some more with it.

 

[Qupakoco]

Pre measuring is new to the game! You can't pre measure with a real life cannon, you know?

 

[n810]

Every cannon user I played was just as accurate without measuring.
so no difference really.

 

[Putzfrau]

Every cannon user I played was just as accurate without measuring.
so no difference really.

So much this. Honestly, it felt like more of a burden for new players as veterans had their guess measuring down perfectly. Might as well have had premeasuring.

 

[pendrake]

Pre measuring is new to the game! You can't pre measure with a real life cannon, you know?

A real life cannon can shoot targets any where on your table, the next table or any other table in the room. Late medieval Sakers and Falcones could shoot 3000-5000 feet.

A 4ft x 6ft table is only 433 scale feet along the longest diagonal.

Pre-measuring is possible with real cannons. The Confederates did this at The Battle of Sabine Pass. The Union steamed gunboats into a pre-measured shooting zone covered by a four gun battery. It Was. Not. Pretty.