AoS AGE OF SIGMAR SDK (math based point system)

[n810]

A bunch I disgruntled players came up with a math basses point system for the AoS scrolls.
it seems to be broken down to the level of what weapon option a unit is even using.
and them numbers are not an entirely different number scale from the 8th edition numbers.
it's no perfect, but it's a web based and they plan on improving it as they test it.

AGE OF SIGMAR SDK
https://sites.google.com/site/ageofsigmarsdk/pointtables

here's the formula they use
https://sites.google.com/site/ageofsigmarsdk/sdksystem

 

[pendrake]

That is what I was trying to do in the other thread.
Theirs is a more complicated looking formula. They maybe better maths majors than I am.



Lizardmen according to their reckoning
NAME COSTS
Lord Kroak 237
Slann Mage-Priest 137
Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur 276
Saurus Oldblood - Suntooth Maul 126
Saurus Oldblood - Warblade 130
Saurus Oldblood - War-spear 133
Saurus Oldblood - Greatblade 126
Saurus Oldblood on Cold One 139
Chakax, The Eternity Warden 119
Gor-Rok 142

Scar-Veteran with Battle Standard 102
Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur - Warblade 280
Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur - War-spear 284
Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur - Greatblade 273

Saurus Warriors - Club 18
Saurus Warriors - Spear 18
Saurus Warriors Alpha Talon - Club 19
Saurus Warriors Alpha Talon - Spear 18
Temple Guard 26
Temple Guard Alpha Guardian 30
Saurus Cavalry - Blade 35
Saurus Cavalry - Lance 35
Saurus Cavalry Alpha Knight - Blade 39
Saurus Cavalry Alpha Knight - Lance 38

Tehenhauin, Prophet of Sotek 100
Tetto'eko 82
Oxyotl 88

Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings 67
Skink Priest - Cloak of Feathers 98
Skink Chief - Golden Sickle 70
Skink Chief - Ornate Club 67
Skink Chief - Golden Sickle & Blowpipe 75
Skink Chief - Ornate Club & Blowpipe 73

Skinks - Meteoric Javelins & Star-bucklers 18
Skinks - Boltspitters & Star-bucklers 18
Skinks - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 18
Skinks - Moonstone Clubs & Star-bucklers 15

Skinks Alpha - Meteoric Javelins & Star-bucklers 18
Skinks Alpha - Boltspitters & Star-bucklers 18
Skinks Alpha - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 18
Skinks Alpha - Moonstone Clubs & Star-bucklers 15

Chameleon Skinks 24
Terradon Riders - Starstrike Javelins 53
Terradon Riders - Sunleech Bolas 48
Terradon Riders Alpha - Starstrike Javelins 54
Terradon Riders Alpha - Sunleech Bolas 49
Terradon Riders Master of the Skies 54
Ripperdactyl Riders 53
Ripperdactyl Riders Alpha 55

Skink Handlers 14
Salamanders 51
Razordons 77
Kroxigor - Drakebite Maul 69
Kroxigor - Moon Hammer 62

Stegadon - Skystreak Bow 245
Stegadon - Sunfire Thrower 255
Stegadon with Alpha Skink - Skystreak Bow 265
Stegadon with Alpha Skink - Sunfire Thrower 276

Engine of the Gods 277
Bastiladon - Ark of Sotek 278
Bastiladon - Solar Engine 240
Troglodon 226

Jungle Swarms 46

 

[n810]

Yea, I'm thinking their formula holds great promise.

 

[Man0waR]

But the formula can't cover sinergies or special rules.

There's no point in Slann who is able to summon whatever he wants, to cost less than any unit he could bring on the battlefield.

 

[pendrake]

But the formula can't cover synergies...

Does a formula really need to? Synergies start to happen because of player decisions. Ultimately, the goal of a point value system is to have the game decided by dice-rolls and the decisions the players make.

 

[Man0waR]

Well its like playing chess with all your pawns having the rules of queen.

 

[pendrake]

Well [ ___________ ] is like playing chess with all your pawns having the rules of queen.

What goes in the blank?
-Age of Sigmar?
-One of the proposed formulae?
-A Slann?

 

[Scalenex]

Yea, I'm thinking their formula holds great promise.

But the formula can't cover sinergies or special rules.

There's no point in Slann who is able to summon whatever he wants, to cost less than any unit he could bring on the battlefield.

Presumably one would use the formula to establish a baseline. Then you would adjust the points value up for exotic non-quantifiable abilities via arbitrary decisions educated guesses on what's appropriate.

Then when you find out something is imbalanced, change it again.

 

[Mr Phat]

Presumably one would use the formula to establish a baseline. Then you would adjust the points value up for exotic non-quantifiable abilities via arbitrary decisions educated guesses on what's appropriate.

Then when you find out something is imbalanced, change it again.

I would leave the points alone, and put my faith in the restriction teams around the world to cancel out broken combos