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8th Ed. OPINIONS NEEDED! which 2k tournament list?

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Hi having recently come back to WFB i want to re-build my Lizards from a successful 7th ed list to a potential force in 8th ed. Having read through some excellent advice on this forum and considered my own style of play I have 2 lists in mind for your perusal. which do you think would work best? what might some of the challenges be to using each list, what units / characters will i need to look out for? Here goes:

LIST 1:


SLAAN, bsb, mystery, rumination, cogitation, cupped hands

SCAR-VET, piranha blade, scaly skin, shield, L.arm, dragon helm


22+2 SKROX, std, mus

23 SAURUS, spears, fc

16 TEMPLE GUARD, fc, sun standard

5 CHAMELEON SKINKS

5 CHAMELEON SKINKS

ANCIENT STEG

SALAMANDER

SALAMANDER

(bit worried about the slaan miscasting and detonating TG. any thoughts? what are the benefits to taking him with the TG and how would u use them?)



LIST 2:

SLANN, mystery, ruination, consciousness, feedback scroll, bane head, bsb, warbanner

SCAR VET (same as above)

23 SAURUS spears, fc

22 +2 SKROX std, mus

10 SKINK SKIRMISHERS

10 SKINK SKIRMISHERS

7 CHAMELEON SKINKS

7 CHAMELEON SKINKS

6 CHAMELEON SKINKS

ANCIENT STEG

SALAMANDER + HANDLER

SALAMANDER + HANDLER

(how do people use the lone slann tactically?)
 
i have had some success with running a lone slann but its had its hariy moments. Probably my bad tactics im still pretty new to the game but i have had a couple of issues where a unit i expect to win loses combat and then are ran down and destroyed. My opponents get to use this to redirect there unit into my slann and its game over. I tried keeping him right near my table edge and away from the fight but that just allows your opponent to run round your flank with something and isolate the slann.

One option i havent tried but am looking forward to is putting my slann in small unit of skinks maybe 20, only costs 100 points and gives him a banner, and a few ranks for combat result. keep the skink unit/slann at the back of your main force and at least if he explodes he takes a few skinks and not TG. Im hopeful this might just act as a deterant and people wont want to charge any fast cav around the flank to have a go at the unit. Even considered putting a kroxigor or 2 in the unit just because it would look amazing, would have to be set up as below but i think it would be an awesome sight and something ive never seen done. (would have to check its actually a legal unit too but im sure it is)

ssSSss
kkSSkk
kksskk
ssssss

s = skink
S = slann
k = kroxigor

what you think?
 
i would take the first list just because you don't have temple gaurds in your 2nd list
 
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