AoS No Kroak

[Lurkaliska]

hello guys!

i start playing 3 months ago with my friends (stormcast, fec, nighthaunt and slaves) and right now i'm the unbeatable one

but now (we play friendly matches and soon we will start a campaign) they complain a lot about Kroak, he is too strong, too many spells, etc.

so i need some help making a good and fun list without kroak!

maybe some firelance or thunderquake?

i got:

heros: kroak, slann, starpriest x2, priest, starseer, 2 carnos (old and scar), troglodon, old blood and sun blood on foot, scar on cold one, astrolith

troops and others: 30 warriors, 20 knights, 40 skinks, 3 salamanders, 20 temple guards, 2 bastilodon, 1 stegadon, 1 engine, 6 terradons

thanks for helping!

ps: got endless spells too!

 

[Erta Wanderer]

hello guys!

i start playing 3 months ago with my friends (stormcast, fec, nighthaunt and slaves) and right now i'm the unbeatable one

but now (we play friendly matches and soon we will start a campaign) they complain a lot about Kroak, he is too strong, too many spells, etc.

so i need some help making a good and fun list without kroak!

maybe some firelance or thunderquake?

i got:

heros: kroak, slann, starpriest x2, priest, starseer, 2 carnos (old and scar), troglodon, old blood and sun blood on foot, scar on cold one, astrolith

troops and others: 30 warriors, 20 knights, 40 skinks, 3 salamanders, 20 temple guards, 2 bastilodon, 1 stegadon, 1 engine, 6 terradons

thanks for helping!

ps: got endless spells too!

the easiest way to run non kroak is to just switch in a slann for him. personally i don't use kroak i like my slann better and so far i have made most lists work well.
if it's just a for fun game i would just bring my best models and have at it

 

[Grotpunter]

If people are finding the tripple Celestial Deliverance to be too strong you can just take Kroak "naked" i.e no Astrolith and Balewind.

 

[Scurvydog]

Yes even without celestial deliverance he is well with the price bump for his 4+ ignore wound save, extra spell cast and extra dice to generate command points each turn alone, like a super slann at a discount increase.

If going for a friendly game and some good will for your lizard dudes, you could also make a friendly saurus list, skip the slann entirely and have fun with your carnosaurs, saurus warriors and knights. A list like this could be decent for a friendly matched play game:

Allegiance: Seraphon
- Constellation: Koatl's Claw
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (230)
- General
- Command Trait: Dominant Predator
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (210)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
Saurus Sunblood (130)
- Artefact: Blade of Realities
Skink Oracle on Troglodon (220)
Skink Starseer (140)
- Spell: Hand of Glory
10 x Saurus Knights (200)
- Lances
5 x Saurus Knights (100)
- Blades
5 x Saurus Knights (100)
- Blades
30 x Saurus Warriors (270)
- Spears
Stegadon (240)
- Weapon: Skystreak Bow
Firelance Temple-host (160)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 126