8th Ed. Need some army list advice

[Whiteice]

Hey guys,

I was hoping some of you could check our my army list for an upcoming mega game that i'm playing in. It's to take part in a 5-a-side game later this year (5k per player) and teams will be allotted randomly on the day.

Need some help crushing my enemies

The other armies (unknown currently whether they'll be friend or foe will be: Tomb Kings, vampires, High Elves+Skaven, Daemons, Dwarves, Empire, Warriors of Chaos, Orcs & Goblins, More Warriors of Chaos, Dark Elves and another army to be confirmed.

I'm using lizzies + warrios of chaos as i don't have 5k of lizzies and woc is my only other army. (not very fluffly i know. I'm just going to assume the slann has mind controlled the lot of them XD)

Amry list is as follows:

LORDS
- Slann [becalming cogitation, focus of mystery (life) focused rumination]
cupped hands
ruby ring
BSB
War Banner

- Old Blood
Carnosaur
Great weapon
The other tricksters shard (enemies re-roll ward saves)
Dawn Stone (re-roll armour saves)
Armour of destiny (heavy arm, 4+ ward)

HEROES
- Skink Chief
Ancient Stegadon
Stegadon war spear

- Skink prist - lvl 2
Cube of darkness

- Skar vet
Armour of fortune (heavy arm, 5+ ward)
Gold Sigil Sword ( I 10)
Shield

- Skar vet
Sword of swift slaying (asf)
Dragon helm (+1 armour save, 2+ ward v flaming)
Ironcurse icon (6+ ward for unit vs warmachines)
Light armour + shield

- Skar vet
Enchanted shield
light armour
Sword of the hornet (asf)
Dragon bane gem (2+ ward vs flaming)

CORE
- Saurus x 24 (spears + FC)
- Saurus x 23 (spears + FC)
- Saurus x 17 (FC)
- Skink skirmishers x 11
- Skink skirmishers x 10
- Skink skirmishers x 10
- Lizard swarms x 3 [THINK I MIGHT TAKE THESE OUT AS SWARMS SEEM TO SUCK NOW Sad ]

SPECIAL
- Chameleon Skinks x 8
- Chameleon Skinks x 8
- Temple Guard x 20
FC
Mask of Eeeeee (terror)
Gleaming pendant (reroll failed leadership test)
-Salamander x 1 (+1 handler)
-Salamander x 1 (+1 handler)
-Salamander x 1 (+1 handler)

TOTAL = [around 4000 - needs some last minute juggling)



The Chaos portion of my army is more up in the air as i'm not sure what to do with it. Few things i do want are hellcannon (to make up for long range destruction and just because it's cool) and the infernal puppet (just because of its sheer usefulness in a battle of this scale).

Army list thus far is:


HEROES
- Chaos sorc
Infernal puppet

- Exaulted hero
Enchanted shield
Sword of striking

CORE
- Chaos warriors x 18
FC, Mark of Tzeentch, Halberds
- Chaos Warhounds x 6
- Marauder horsemen x 6
Light armour, flails, Mark of Khorne, Chiefton + musician

RARE

- Hellcannon

TOTAL = 995

And advice or assistance you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to tell me the chaos portion sucks and i should do x, y and z Razz

Thanks all

 

[vapor]

Definitely drop the ruby ring, the swarms, mask of eeee. None of them are very useful. I'm not a fan of the Carnosaur, but considering the sheer size of this game I think he might have a chance of not getting plastered by cannons before he kills something.


I'm not a big fan of your scar vet builds, but those usually come down to personal taste. I've been running my only one as Lt armor/Shield, Piranha Blade, and Dragonhelm and buffed with lore of light spells. He's great in challenges and for taking out monsters.


If you have more Chaos Warrior models, bring them. My friend runs them as Halberds, shields (for the 3+ vs shooting-- you make a single save due to them and they've made their points cost back), and mark of Khorne (or mark of Nurgle + rage banner) and lovingly refers to them as his "blender units". Very nasty.

 

[Whiteice]

Ruby Ring is basically to give the slann another (blasty) spell which lore of life is missing.

Mask of eee is pretty much to give the unit fear (and fear protection) althoguh i know with re-rollable leadership 9 (on 3 dice) it's unlikely to come into play a great deal.

Carny is there basically as i have the model and need to use the points up XD He's good for big monster/char killing as well (Assuming he gets into combat).

The skar vet builds are cheap and cheerful so that each saurus unit has one to give them extra killyness and some finess to do some damage.

Anything you recommend to replace in the lizzy list if i take out the stuff you mentioned?

 

[vapor]

Ruby Ring is basically to give the slann another (blasty) spell which lore of life is missing.

Mask of eee is pretty much to give the unit fear (and fear protection) althoguh i know with re-rollable leadership 9 (on 3 dice) it's unlikely to come into play a great deal.

Carny is there basically as i have the model and need to use the points up XD He's good for big monster/char killing as well (Assuming he gets into combat).

The skar vet builds are cheap and cheerful so that each saurus unit has one to give them extra killyness and some finess to do some damage.

Anything you recommend to replace in the lizzy list if i take out the stuff you mentioned?

With the way magic works now you really won't have the PD to spare on a blasty spell. I ran with the ring in my first 15 games or so and rarely used it, dwellers or awakening ought to do the job nicely. I do tuck in the Blood Statuette of Spite for Teclis/other wizard killing. YMMV.

Temple Guard are ITP with the Slann, so the mask really doesn't help (and usually if you charge with the TG you want the enemy to stay put so you can beat them up!). The gleaming pendant won't be useful either, as the BSB gives you a reroll already.

If you can make room for it and have the model another Steg would be nice. More large scary targets for cannons means at least one of your big guys should make it across the board. Otherwise I would try to boost the size of your Saurus, at 2500 I run a unit of 29 with a scar vet and it always does very well. What else do you have available?

 

[Whiteice]

Not a lot unfortunately.

No stega (though i would like another. My brother is trying to convince me to buy this dragon turtle model and build a howda for it - http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Reptus/latest/14493 this dude).

Haven't got any more skinks or saurus unfortunately.

Got one krox but can probably proxy a unit of 6 (though kroxigors seems pretty poor as far as monsterous infantry go. Str 4 stomp and always strikes last :/ )

Could probably buy another unit of saurus and buff up the others. Seems like getting a 4th rank is an expensive way to get more models in the unit though.

 

[Whiteice]

Anyone have any other advice?