8th Ed. Double tournament 1000x2 (Lizardmen and Dark elves)

[Carnosaur Nr1]

Hi I am entering a double tournament with my friend. He is going to play Dark eleves and you can guess what Im going to play. We each get 1000 points to spend on an army and the rules are:
*no lord or charcters with special names but you use 50% on hero insteed of 25%
*each player must have 25% core and atleast on hero to be the general
*The Specials are limited to 2 of the same kind
* no doubles of rare
*I can use my friends rare, special or hero points if he hasnt spent to much on them.

This is my list:

Hero
Scar-vet
-halberd, light armor, shield
-Talisman of endurance
-Mount: carnosaur with blood roar and loping stride
*total of 382

Core
20x saurus warrios (full command) spears and shields
*total 250

Special
6x chameleon skinks
*total 78

Rare
Ancient stegadon
-Unstoppable stampede
*total 290


My friends list is:
25 warriors fc. 16 x-bows mus. Hydra. Sorsceress lv2, 5 dark riders and bsb on cold one with pendant of kaleth


Does anyone wanna change my list some how or should I go with this one?
I do have every charcter except razordon troglodon and terradons, so you see I can build my list almost every why you want to.
And I do apologize for my english.

 

[Dreyer]

Would recommend a wizard, skink skirmishers and some salamanders instead of that carnosaur

 

[Dreyer]

Also might help if we could see the dark elves list

 

[Carnosaur Nr1]

I wrote in the dark elve list.
Are salamanders that good enemy more because they cant march and fire?
And why I didnt take a wizard is because my friend took a wizard. On the double tournament that I am playing in it will be permitted to dispel any spell even if we are desperat alliance

 

[Zwuppie]

Ancient stegadon isnt 290 points but 250 or am i wrong?

 

[Dreyer]

Ancient stegadon isnt 290 points but 250 or am i wrong?

240 with Stampede

 

[Dreyer]

I wrote in the dark elve list.
Are salamanders that good enemy more because they cant march and fire?
And why I didnt take a wizard is because my friend took a wizard. On the double tournament that I am playing in it will be permitted to dispel any spell even if we are desperat alliance

They are still good, strength 4 templates hurts a lot still, they can also clear weaker chaff, be used to redirect or even munch a wizard out of a bunker if your lucky. Sure your allied has a lvl 2 mage but i would still bring one myself, a lvl 2 mage cant usually use all the power dice by himself and a level 2 beast priest with a dispel scroll bring a lot to the table.

Would also remove the stampede on the stegadon and give it sharpened horns instead.

 

[Carnosaur Nr1]

forgott to write in that the ancient stegadon has the engine of gods thats why it cost so much

 

[Carnosaur Nr1]

I wrote in the dark elve list.
Are salamanders that good enemy more because they cant march and fire?
And why I didnt take a wizard is because my friend took a wizard. On the double tournament that I am playing in it will be permitted to dispel any spell even if we are desperat alliance

They are still good, strength 4 templates hurts a lot still, they can also clear weaker chaff, be used to redirect or even munch a wizard out of a bunker if your lucky. Sure your allied has a lvl 2 mage but i would still bring one myself, a lvl 2 mage cant usually use all the power dice by himself and a level 2 beast priest with a dispel scroll bring a lot to the table.

Would also remove the stampede on the stegadon and give it sharpened horns instead.

Can you buff up the salamders strenght on the fire to strenght 5 with lore of the beast signature spell that gives 1 strenght and 1 in thougness?

 

[Zwuppie]

No, you can't boost the breath attack, it isn't at users strength! This works when you target javelinskinks! then you make str 4 jav attacks instead of str 3!

Your engine is illegal I think, only 250 points of rare is allowed! Even if it was legal, it would be a waste so make a ancient with sharpened horns (troll killer and monster killer!)

 

[Carnosaur Nr1]

Your engine is illegal I think, only 250 points of rare is allowed! Even if it was legal, it would be a waste so make a ancient with sharpened horns (troll killer and monster killer!)

I can spend 500 points on rare in this tournament because they count the total sum of 2000 point
Hero 1000 points because we cant use lords or any special charcter with names
Core 500 points me and my team mate must atleast take 250 each
special 1000 points
Rare 500points

e.g.
I spend 250 on core and 650 points on special and 100 on hero my friend can then spend 250 on core and 400 on hero and 350 on rare. Together we have 2000 points

This is how we play in that tournament.

 

[Zwuppie]

Ok, but what i already said! no engine.. isn't worth its points in such a small game! you've better options!

 

[Dreyer]

Just really think you have too many points invested in monsters. Any army with cannons is going to cry tears of joy when they see you.

Scarvet with GW and armor of destiny
Beast Skink Priest with dispel scroll

24 saurus full command

2x10 skink skirmishers

A salamander with extra handler

Ancient Stegadon with sharpened horns (figured you wanted this one, if not add an extra salamander to the unit and skirmishers and chameleons with the rest of the points)

 

[Carnosaur Nr1]

Just really think you have too many points invested in monsters. Any army with cannons is going to cry tears of joy when they see you.

Scarvet with GW and armor of destiny
Beast Skink Priest with dispel scroll

24 saurus full command

2x10 skink skirmishers

A salamander with extra handler

Ancient Stegadon with sharpened horns (figured you wanted this one, if not add an extra salamander to the unit and skirmishers and chameleons with the rest of the points)

Nice list.
I have 2 questions.
giant blowpipe or giant bow?
And does the signature spell work with the giant blowpipes because a friend told me that it worked?

 

[Dreyer]

Just really think you have too many points invested in monsters. Any army with cannons is going to cry tears of joy when they see you.

Scarvet with GW and armor of destiny
Beast Skink Priest with dispel scroll

24 saurus full command

2x10 skink skirmishers

A salamander with extra handler

Ancient Stegadon with sharpened horns (figured you wanted this one, if not add an extra salamander to the unit and skirmishers and chameleons with the rest of the points)

Nice list.
I have 2 questions.
giant blowpipe or giant bow?
And does the signature spell work with the giant blowpipes because a friend told me that it worked?

Ancient steg always have blowpipes, and wildform do not give any bonuses to the blowpipes