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8th Ed. Army building, beginner questions

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Hello!

I've only played one Warhammer game with Dwarves (Battle for Skull Pass army) years ago.
Now I want to play with my Lizardmen.

1) Is it true that there is no fixed number how many units you need (core, rare ones, heroes) etc. in WHFB 8th edition but a percentage? 25%+ core, up to 50% elite etc.?

How can I play my Slann AND Groq-Gar? Is it only possible in huge battles?

2) If I use the Slann, I could use the Groq-Gar model (Grymlok in this case) as a mount for any other hero right?

I have no clue how heroes are placed...do they run around and fight on their own? Are the part of a unit? For example, is a Skink Priest a single model all alone or can I put him on a Stegadon? On Grymlok? In a Saurus Warriors unit? In a cavalry unit?

Who is my Slann? Can I play him as a normal Slann AND also as Mazdamundi? Lord Kroak? I know Kroak as a unique mini but what about Madzamundi?

3) How can I use my units wisely?

a) Slann
b) Groq-Gar on Grymlok
c) Old Blood (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070208001_SaurusOldbloodNEW01.jpg) ... his base is bigger than a Saurus base so how can I use him but all alone?
d) 2 Stegadons
e) 1 Skink Starpriest (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070208003_SkinkStarpriest01.jpg)
f) 3 Kroxigors
e) Saurus Warriors, Skinks, Cavalry
 
Hello!

I've only played one Warhammer game with Dwarves (Battle for Skull Pass army) years ago.
Now I want to play with my Lizardmen. :D

1) Is it true that there is no fixed number how many units you need (core, rare ones, heroes) etc. in WHFB 8th edition but a percentage? 25%+ core, up to 50% elite etc.? YEP IT'S A PERCENTAGE.

How can I play my Slann AND Groq-Gar? Is it only possible in huge battles?
JUST LARGE BATTLES (2500+ I THINK)

2) If I use the Slann, I could use the Groq-Gar model (Grymlok in this case) as a mount for any other hero right?
HE CAN BE A DOUBLE FOR A SCAR-VETERN ON A CARNASAUR

I have no clue how heroes are placed...do they run around and fight on their own? Are the part of a unit? For example, is a Skink Priest a single model all alone or can I put him on a Stegadon? On Grymlok? In a Saurus Warriors unit? In a cavalry unit?
ALL OF THE ABOVE*
*(APPROVED MOUNTS ONLY)
IT'S GENERALY A GOOD IDEA TO ONLY JOIN UNITS THAT ARE THE SAME SPEED AND BASE SIZE.


Who is my Slann? Can I play him as a normal Slann AND also as Mazdamundi? Lord Kroak? I know Kroak as a unique mini but what about Madzamundi?
THE REGULAR SLAN AND LORD KROAK HAVE MODELS. MAZUMUNDI DOES NOT.
(SO IF YOU REALLLY WANT TO USE HIM YOU MAY HAVE TO CONVERT HIM FOMR A STGADON AND A SLAN MODEL) :greedy::greedy:


3) How can I use my units wisely?
DON'T GET THEM ALL KILLED. :blackeye:

a) Slann
SURROUND HIM WITH TEMPLE GUARD AND HANG BACK AND CAST MAGIC

b) Groq-Gar on Grymlok
BE AGRESSIVE AND HAVE THEM CHARGE THE FLANKS OF YOUR ENEMIES.
POSSIBLY IN COMBINATION WITH A FRONTAL COLD ONE CALVERY CHARGE.


c) Old Blood (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070208001_SaurusOldbloodNEW01.jpg) ... his base is bigger than a Saurus base so how can I use him but all alone?
HIS BASE WAS THE SAME SIZE BACK IN 8TH EDITION.
USE HIM IN A UNIT OR ON HIS OWN, ALSO HE CAN LEAVE A UNIT IF HE WANTS.


d) 2 Stegadons
BE AGRESSIVE AND HAVE THEM CHARGE THE FLANKS OF YOUR ENEMIES.
POSSIBLY IN COMBINATION WITH A FRONTAL COLD ONE CALVERY CHARGE.


e) 1 Skink Starpriest (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070208003_SkinkStarpriest01.jpg)
KEEP HIM SAFE, HE IS QUITE SQUISHY, BUT ALS KEEP HIM CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE USEFULL.

f) 3 Kroxigors
ANOTHER FLANKING UNIT, BUT SOMETIMES GOOD FOR A FRONTAL CHARGE IF THEY HAVE HELP.
OR THE OPONENT UNIT IS WEAK.


e) Saurus Warriors,
THESE SHOULD FORN THE CENTER OF YOUR ARMY,
THEY ARE AVERAGE SPEED FOR INFANTRY... THAT IS TO SAY, SLOW.
THEY ARE QUITE GOOD FOR A CORE UNIT AND WILL OFTEN FIGHT TO THE LAST MODEL.


Skinks,
THEY ARE A GREAT HARRASMENT UNIT WITH THEIR POISION SHOT,
BUT THEIR SHORT RANGE IS A PROBLEM, KEEP THEM IN TERAIN IF POSSIBLE.
ALSO POISION IS GENERALY OUR ANSWER TO ENEMY MONSTER UITS.


Cavalry
FAST TOUGH AND DURRABLE... BUT ALSO EXPENSIVE.
MOST CALVERY WIN BY CHARGEING, OURS WINS BY ENDURANCE.
ALSO A GREAT DELEVERY SYSTEM FOR OUR SAURUS HEROS ON COLDONES.
 
Oh I got a Hardy seal of approval. :)
 
Thank you very much!

I wasn't clear enough how I mean "How can I use my units wisely?". I wanted to ask how I can mix my units with heroes. I did not mean general tactics for units but in what units a hero/priest etc. can be put...like "Can you put an Old Blood on a Stegadon? On a Carnosaur?" etc.

What, if I have a unit with champion, standard bearer and musician...can I add a hero there? Does it replace the champion?

I think it's better to read the rules before asking many dumb noob questions. :D
 
Ok. it sounds like you don't have and of the books yet.... :meh:

"Can you put an Old Blood on a Stegadon? NO

On a Carnosaur?" yes

What, if I have a unit with champion, standard bearer and musician...can I add a hero there? Yes

Does it replace the champion? NO

All mount options are mentioned in the book.


Saurus heros can ride Cold ones and Carnasaurs.
regular Saurus can ride cold ones.

skinks priest can ride engine of the gods equiped stagadons.
skink chiefs can ride the other stegadons, and terradons.
 
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