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8th Ed. 2,4k Lizards for tournament (again)

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Tournament is 2-3th July, Comps are:

-No unit nor character can cost more than 450pts
-max. 40 per unit.
-max 4 warmachines
-max 45 models that can shoot over 20"
-max 3 flying units
-max 2 same special units
-max 2 same rare units
Cant have more than 1 same monster
-no Folding Fortress
Spell can be cast with max 4 dices
Spell can be dispelled with max 6 dices

Plus some extra comps for certain armies:

Empire: Stank and Helstorm Rocket Battery each count as 2 warmachines
Max 1 Stank per army

Deamons of Chaos: Max 1 unit of flamers. Max 3 Bloodletter units and/or Herald of Khornes per army.
Battle Standard Bearer can take gifts OR Daemonic Icon
Following Gifts can be taken only once: Siren Song, Spell
Breaker, Master of Sorcery, Power Vortex.

Warriors of Chaos: Max 1 warshrine per army. Chosens Champion cant take Favor of The Gods

Vampire Counts: Only Invocation of Nehek Can be cast multiple times in magic phase
Max 1 unit of wraihts, max 5 wraiths

Max 1 per army: Master of the Black Arts, Forbidden Lore.
Max 2 of following per army: Master of the Black Arts,
Forbidden Lore, Drakenhoff Banner, Helm of Commandment, Book of
Arkhan.

Dark Elves: Can Cast spells with 5 dices
Max. 35 Repeater crossbowmen, max 20 shades. Crown of Command is for model on foot only

Lizardmen: Max 1 unit of salamanders
Slann can have max. 2 from these: Cupped Hands,
Becalming Cogitations, Loremaster, Battle Standard Bearer.




Slann
bsb, banner of swiftness
Focused Rumination, Focus Of Mystery (light), Cube of Darkness
Plaque of Protection



Scar vet
cold one, l.armour
halberd
Dragonhelm
Venom of the fireflyfrog
5+ ward

Scar vet
cold one
Great Weapon
Armour of Destiny


24x Saurus Warriors
-hand weapons, shields
Full Command

30x Saurus Warriors
-hand weapons, shields
Full Command



10x Skink Skirmishers
-blowpipes

10x Skink Skirmishers
-blowpipes

20x Skink Cohorts
-javelins, shields
musician, standard




8x Chameleon Skinks
-blowpipes

9x Chameleon Skinks
-blowpipes

3x Terradons
-javelins


2x Salamander huntpacks
2 extra handlers

Ancient Stegadon


2397pts
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Only thing I am thinking: Should I have cogitation instead of loremaster?
 
Quicksilver said:
Odd that you would take a slaan with no temple guard...
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not really. Having played now some 5+ games with solo slann, I like it more than standard TGSlann list.
 
I tried solo slaan too, but as a different role. I gave him the crown of command, higher state of consciousness, and then ran him into a 30-man unit of white lions... who could donothing about him for 3 turns until a unit of saurus wiped the table with them. I'm not sure how you're using your guy, though.
 
I've tried slann with crown and ethereal. It's good vs some armies. But I like to have mine with 2+ ranged ward, cause I am bad at rolling 4+ ward vs cannonballz etc.

Btw, Played test game vs empire, got butraepd. Didnt get his artillery killed soon enough, which limited my vets movement (hide behind a house for 4 turns..)
Gonna have second game next week.

I'm going to drop some saurus warriors and take second unit of skinks, I would have needed that a lot today.
 
There isn't much in the way of variety in the list, aren't you tempted by a Steg/Skink Krox etc. for more variety to deal with things?

With Light Magic I would swap the GW for a Halberd on the other Scar Vet so you can benefit from Light magic more. I also like the Charme shield and Amulet of Iztul (2+ ward vs first wound) so you can pop out for one turn against Cannons etc. and then get into combat.
 
Paul Brown said:
There isn't much in the way of variety in the list, aren't you tempted by a Steg/Skink Krox etc. for more variety to deal with things?

With Light Magic I would swap the GW for a Halberd on the other Scar Vet so you can benefit from Light magic more. I also like the Charme shield and Amulet of Iztul (2+ ward vs first wound) so you can pop out for one turn against Cannons etc. and then get into combat.
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GW is for S7.

I am not sold on skrox unit yet. IMO its too depending on magic buffs, while saurus warriors arent. Oh well, maybe i'm gonna give them another try.

edit: hmm, skrox could actually do pretty well against empire because Kroxies S6. Might take them to the tournament as well should they perform ok.
 
I get the GW being Strength 7 but does it make much difference most of the time? What are you thinking you need ST 7 for? With other Lores I would go great weapons because it doesn't make much difference with I3 but with potentially I10 and maybe ASF having ASL makes a much bigger difference.
 
Being S7 with a character (especialy in a frenzied unit!) makes al the differennce against monsters and the like. Usualy if I took a character like that I would give him good armor/ ward saves, or stick him on a cold one.

Has anyone tried taking a charcter with the Gold Sigil Sword (I10) or Sword of the Hornet yet? I think it would be some good redundancy in case you can't make the timewarp/speed of light.
 
Played agaisnt same empire with little changes (he had mortar instead of lvl1, I had stega instead of 20sh saurus warriors) I lost by 1000pts due some extremely bad luck on my part (dawn attack, so my deployment didint went as I planned). But overral game went better than before and wasnt such a buttraep as it was last time.

Definatelly taking stega to my final list, it aint so bad as I thought.

next game on saturday, going to be daemons, bretts or delves.

edit: also, I made few mistakes, didnt charge the 5sh swordmen with sallies instead of firing, and timewarped saurus warriors could have actually killed the waltar and broke the pope.. oh well, better playing next time
 
Comps for the tournament are out, edited my list. C&C wellcome
 
izardmen: Max 1 unit of salamanders
Slann can have max. 2 from these: Cupped Hands,
Becalming Cogitations, Loremaster, Battle Standard Bearer.

I though only one unit of salamanders? in your list it says two?
 
Tournament is over, I went 6-4 (ogres). 7-3( more than nice empire). 0-10 (WoC), 6-4 (Tomb Kings) and 6-4 (dark elves). Max 50 pts from battles, max. 30 pts from painting and fluff. I've got (IIRC) 39 total, 14pts from painting (Had I sent some hur dur fluff I'd have had 5pts more. Maybe next time!)

4 wins and 1 lose, cant complain!

I'll write a small report tomorrow about the games.
 
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