Star Trek vs. Star Wars (and a collection of memes)

[Killer Angel]

(tnx to @Just A Skink)

 

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[BrotherSutek]

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In the words of Spock, "Pain!"

 

[Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl]

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2003 Grievous' bar buffs come from cartoon physics... take that away and he'd probably be the same as Revenge of the Sith Grievous, as his Force Sensitivity was never made explicit even in the Tartatovsky series. Indeed Mace Force-choked him in the Tartatovsky series, which suggests that Grievous never was Force-Sensitive there either.

Now Clone Wars Grievous on the other hand... Filoni will always receive animosity from me for what he did to him (plus his continual nerdboner for Ahsoka).

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I don't know about that... Insurrection wasn't fantastic but nowhere near as bad as The Motion Picture, which is incredibly boring for long stretches. V I also used to think was bad but has warmed up a bit in my view since I last watched it and got more of an understanding of the story.

 

[Scalenex]

(plus his continual nerdboner for Ahsoka).

Explain what you mean. I have not seen many episodes of Clone Wars. How does she compare to other well-known action heroines, good or bad.

Is she a Mary Sue? Is she needlessly political? Is she is oversexualized?

I'm trying to figure out how to use female heroes in my own stories which so far are proverbial sausage fests.

 

[Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl]

Explain what you mean. I have not seen many episodes of Clone Wars. How does she compare to other well-known action heroines, good or bad.

Is she a Mary Sue? Is she needlessly political? Is she is oversexualized?

Others think she is a balanced character for reasons I cannot comprehend, but I disagree. She certainly doesn't make or learn from mistakes much, regularly works things out that others fail to miss, survives Order 66 with flying colours and escapes duels with Darth Maul and Darth Vader, Sith so much stronger than she is in the Force and renowned Jedi killers, completely intact, all because of Dave Filoni's obsession with her and wanting to make her the star of every series he can get his hands on. Look at that in conjunction with how Grievous is reduced to the level of a Saturday-morning cartoon villain, and it's clear to see Filoni's attitude to Star Wars. And that was all before the Woke Times where she's now going to be propelled to Rey-levels of OP-ness allegedly in her upcoming series.

If any Star Wars character resembled Wesley Crusher beyond Rey, it would be Ahsoka.

 

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2003 Grievous' bar buffs come from cartoon physics... take that away and he'd probably be the same as Revenge of the Sith Grievous

Is she a Mary Sue? Is she needlessly political? Is she is oversexualized?

She's a decent character. She never came off as any of those things in my eyes (obviously the new Ahsoka series will likely change that... not that I intend on watching it).

 

[Killer Angel]

She's a decent character. She never came off as any of those things in my eyes (obviously the new Ahsoka series will likely change that... not that I intend on watching it).

and this pretty much sums my personal attitude

 

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[Scalenex]

If any Star Wars character resembled Wesley Crusher beyond Rey, it would be Ahsoka.

Others think she is a balanced character for reasons I cannot comprehend, but I disagree. She certainly doesn't make or learn from mistakes much, regularly works things out that others fail to miss, survives Order 66 with flying colours and escapes duels with Darth Maul and Darth Vader, Sith so much stronger than she is in the Force and renowned Jedi killers, completely intact, all because of Dave Filoni's obsession with her and wanting to make her the star of every series he can get his hands on. Look at that in conjunction with how Grievous is reduced to the level of a Saturday-morning cartoon villain, and it's clear to see Filoni's attitude to Star Wars. And that was all before the Woke Times where she's now going to be propelled to Rey-levels of OP-ness allegedly in her upcoming series.

If any Star Wars character resembled Wesley Crusher beyond Rey, it would be Ahsoka.

A Wesley with too much plot armor. That is a unisex problem, not just a problem for action heroines. But fortunately, Wesley's are not difficult to avoid if young characters have realistic learning curves and make occasional mistakes.

 

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[BrotherSutek]

Others think she is a balanced character for reasons I cannot comprehend, but I disagree. She certainly doesn't make or learn from mistakes much, regularly works things out that others fail to miss, survives Order 66 with flying colours and escapes duels with Darth Maul and Darth Vader, Sith so much stronger than she is in the Force and renowned Jedi killers, completely intact, all because of Dave Filoni's obsession with her and wanting to make her the star of every series he can get his hands on. Look at that in conjunction with how Grievous is reduced to the level of a Saturday-morning cartoon villain, and it's clear to see Filoni's attitude to Star Wars. And that was all before the Woke Times where she's now going to be propelled to Rey-levels of OP-ness allegedly in her upcoming series.

If any Star Wars character resembled Wesley Crusher beyond Rey, it would be Ahsoka.

I liked her at first but most of what you said is how I feel as well. It was after Clone Wars I stopped thinking she was anything other than his Star Wars Waifu. Beating Vader was... annoying.

 

[Just A Skink]

I liked her at first but most of what you said is how I feel as well. It was after Clone Wars I stopped thinking she was anything other than his Star Wars Waifu. Beating Vader was... annoying.

In kind of the same way as Obi-wan in his D+ show. They both slice open one side of Vader's mask so you can see his face and hear his partially modulated voice. Sigh...

 

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