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I agree that it is hideous.
....I am still intrigued by it. It is a nightmarish machine made of bone and undead magic.

The more models they show of that army the more interested I am.
I still don't like the faces of the infantry though. IF I play that army I will try using other heads.
 
Ok I guess by now y'all know the drill with me:
When everyone hates something I search for the good things in it.

So let's take another look at this model. Thoughts follow in the next post as my mobile browser is acting up right now.


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So, what do I see there?

I see a monstrous machine made of bone, OK.
It smashes or slices up stuff with its fists/kopeshs, depending on configuration, and it most likely bites. I prefer the crocodile head btw.

Why is there a guy in the crotch?
If we take a look from behind/above, and at its name, then we get a hint. This is a harvester. The crotch face/arms gather the bones from the battlefield and store them in the back.

So this is a bit like a corpse cart, just more industrialized. Not a guy with a skewer that gathers the corpses, but a combine harvester that turns enemies into resources in one step.
(I like that part of the paint job, too. The bones in the back are still a bit bloody.)

To be honest I would love to see it animated. The little arms hand the body parts to each other, rip the flesh off and store the bones.

The Ossiarch Bonereapers are doing what their name and lore say, and it is right there in their game mechanic, in this model.
I really like the idea of this model and of this army.

Now, they are not as great as they could be aesthetically. A bit too much greeble, and I also don't like that they used different bone colors there (especially the grey). But I think that a good paint job can make them a lot more bearable.

EDIT: the first thing I would consider is removing the flag on top. I think that would improve the lines of the model.
 
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NIGHTBRINGER said:
I guess that explains TLJ. :cool:
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Sure (and I think I mentioned it before). It is far from my favourite movie, but it does have its qualities and it is often criticized in an exaggerated way, which I think is sad.

And now please stop making me derail the thread. :D
 
Aginor said:
And now please stop making me derail the thread. :D
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You can't set me up like that. As an agent of Chaos, you know I have no choice but to take advantage of the opportunity. :p


But back on topic, I think the model is just too busy. It wants to be too many things at once.

The crotch dude is just strange, even if it somehow fits the twisted AoS lore.


And all this is with a professional paint job. For most people, the model will look substantially worse (as only a small fraction of painters can match or exceed the work produced by the E'avy Metal team)
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
And all this is with a professional paint job. For most people, the model will look substantially worse (as only a small fraction of painters can match or exceed the work produced by the E'avy Metal team)
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Quality-wise I agree, but I think they also made some suboptimal artistic decisions in painting this army, and not only for this model but for others in that army as well. I am really tempted to get a few and paint them in my style, which I think will make the models look better, at least in my eyes.

There are two styles I would like to see that army in:
- yellowish bones like those, but the grey bone parts painted like that as well
- white (bleached) bones and armor plates in black for example.
 
Aginor said:
So, what do I see there?

I see a monstrous machine made of bone, OK.
It smashes or slices up stuff with its fists/kopeshs, depending on configuration, and it most likely bites. I prefer the crocodile head btw.

Why is there a guy in the crotch?
If we take a look from behind/above, and at its name, then we get a hint. This is a harvester. The crotch face/arms gather the bones from the battlefield and store them in the back.

So this is a bit like a corpse cart, just more industrialized. Not a guy with a skewer that gathers the corpses, but a combine harvester that turns enemies into resources in one step.
(I like that part of the paint job, too. The bones in the back are still a bit bloody.)

To be honest I would love to see it animated. The little arms hand the body parts to each other, rip the flesh off and store the bones.

The Ossiarch Bonereapers are doing what their name and lore say, and it is right there in their game mechanic, in this model.
I really like the idea of this model and of this army.

Now, they are not as great as they could be aesthetically. A bit too much greeble, and I also don't like that they used different bone colors there (especially the grey). But I think that a good paint job can make them a lot more bearable.

EDIT: the first thing I would consider is removing the flag on top. I think that would improve the lines of the model.
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I did work this out when looking at this model, but I still ask - why did the little chap doing the harvesting have to be set in the crotch region? Why couldn’t he have been sitting on its back so that the creature picks up the bones with its jaws or claws and throws them up to him to put them in its back? Or perhaps he could have been sitting on the tail and picking up bones the creature leaves behind in its rampage and throwing them up into the basket? Putting him in the crotch region was just an unnecessary attempt to get a bit of humour out in my opinion.

To be honest I do like this faction a lot, despite the backlash of many. All the other Death factions are just boring and unoriginal with their ideas - Legions of Nagash is just Vampire Counts 2.0 :vomit:, Nighthaunt are based on the boring old grim reaper routine and Flesh Eater Courts, while at least having more original and interesting lore in AoS, are still using the Ghoul part of the Vampire Counts models (also I don’t like their obsession with gore). This faction, on the other hand, is something fresh and new, while at the same time using some trusted aesthetics (mostly the End Times undead aesthetics but also a bit of Tomb Kings in terms of the hieroglyphics and the troop roster).

I do agree there is some weird stuff, but as an experienced kitbasher, I’m sure it is possible to work out ways to get rid of the weirdest stuff (as @Aginor says the heads on the infantry and monstrous infantry can be easily swapped out, and the bloke in the crotch of the creature can be cut off mostly and replaced with another model sitting in a less weird region like on the tail). Also having a different paint scheme goes a long way to making them look like something new (e.g. painting the all like Tomb Kings animated constructs or something).
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I did work this out when looking at this model, but I still ask - why did the little chap doing the harvesting have to be set in the crotch region? Why couldn’t he have been sitting on its back so that the creature picks up the bones with its jaws or claws and throws them up to him to put them in its back? Or perhaps he could have been sitting on the tail and picking up bones the creature leaves behind in its rampage and throwing them up into the basket? Putting him in the crotch region was just an unnecessary attempt to get a bit of humour out in my opinion.

To be honest I do like this faction a lot, despite the backlash of many. All the other Death factions are just boring and unoriginal with their ideas - Legions of Nagash is just Vampire Counts 2.0 :vomit:, Nighthaunt are based on the boring old grim reaper routine and Flesh Eater Courts, while at least having more original and interesting lore in AoS, are still using the Ghoul part of the Vampire Counts models (also I don’t like their obsession with gore). This faction, on the other hand, is something fresh and new, while at the same time using some trusted aesthetics (mostly the End Times undead aesthetics but also a bit of Tomb Kings in terms of the hieroglyphics and the troop roster).

I do agree there is some weird stuff, but as an experienced kitbasher, I’m sure it is possible to work out ways to get rid of the weirdest stuff (as @Aginor says the heads on the infantry and monstrous infantry can be easily swapped out, and the bloke in the crotch of the creature can be cut off mostly and replaced with another model sitting in a less weird region like on the tail). Also having a different paint scheme goes a long way to making them look like something new (e.g. painting the all like Tomb Kings animated constructs or something).
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I don't think that the crotch guy was meant as a joke.
It is just down there so it can look at the ground and pick up stuff while the main head and fists mow down the enemies.

Mow down.... go low to pick up.... yeah. Pretty much this:

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Aginor said:
I don't think that the crotch guy was meant as a joke.
It is just down there so it can look at the ground and pick up stuff while the main head and fists mow down the enemies.

Mow down.... go low to pick up.... yeah. Pretty much this:

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But the problem is, because he is situated so low down and is on the front, how do the bones get into the basket at the back? Does he just throw them behind the monster’s back and hope they land in the basket? Does he somehow swallow them so they travel through the monster and then pop out of a little hole in its back into the basket? It isn’t clear.

Certainly it makes a lot more sense if he was sitting astride the monster’s tail, as because it also hangs low down he can easily reach down and pick up the bones the monster leaves in its wake, and because he would be behind the monster it would be much easier for him to either climb up its back and put the bones in the basket or throw them up into it with more precision.

EDIT: Just had another look at the pics of the model and have just spotted there are other small arms further up the monster leading up to the basket on its back, so the chap in the crotch picks up bones and hands them to the arms above him, who then hand them up to the arms above them and so on in a chain until the topmost pair reaches the basket.

However, I still think it would be a bit more tasteful if there was just the one bloke sitting astride its tail. You can see he’s got a full torso, so it looks like you could almost detach him from the crotch region and give him a pair of legs to do this, although we will only be able to see if he is a separate piece when the model is actually released and we can see the sprues.
 
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Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
This faction, on the other hand, is something fresh and new, while at the same time using some trusted aesthetics (mostly the End Times undead aesthetics but also a bit of Tomb Kings in terms of the hieroglyphics and the troop roster).
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I don't see any bit of Tomb Kings in this ugly ass release.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
I don't see any bit of Tomb Kings in this ugly ass release.
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I do, for the reasons mentioned previously. The hieroglyphs in the middle of the shields and on carapaces have an Egyptian feel, and the roster with clean skeletal infantry, cavalry and monsters is more reminiscent of the Tomb Kings army list than the Vampire Counts/Legions of Nagash one, which has all the vile walking corpses and stuff.

Still would rather have these chaps than Sigmarines or Nighthaunt all the time.
 
I personally think they look really cool though their big leader guy looks a bit off for some reason (the retainers are epic though) and the crotch guy needs removed lol hopefully thats possible.
 
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