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Fantasy vs AoS

LeeroyVinland said:
I want more Seraphon but .. oh well I fear they overdo it with the starmaster thingy. I just want my aztec lizardmen but with better sculpts and more options :(
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The problem is, that out of all the factions, Seraphon are one of the largest and most developed. There are many other factions that are in much more desperate need for an update.
TheSkeptic said:
I wouldn't be. The more Stormcast are released, the less love the other, not poster boy factions get.
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Agreed!
TheSkeptic said:
Bleh, no. I'm just saying, if they took it down a route like that, interesting a path as that would be from a story perspective, we'd probably still be seeing new Stormcast splinter faction models. Even if they've been getting better about it lately, GW gotta GW. Still, would find the idea interesting. As much as I love fantasy, there wasn't a great deal of moral quandary within it. The Empire was good, period. Chaos was evil, period. Would be interesting if the main "Good" faction of AoS started to stray from the basis of their moral compass for the purpose of stopping Chaos at all costs, and having a moral dilemma when one of them realized this.
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I largely agree, but I would say that all the WFB armies were tainted by evil to various degrees (not nearly as much as the 40k armies though).
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
The problem is, that out of all the factions, Seraphon are one of the largest and most developed. There are many other factions that are in much more desperate need for an update.

Agreed!

I largely agree, but I would say that all the WFB armies were tainted by evil to various degrees (not nearly as much as the 40k armies though).
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True, they did show their crueler sides from time to time, though as you said, not nearly as much as in 40k (Which isn't really saying a lot, since the "Good" guys are a bunch of xenophobic, racist, extremely overzealous, slowly degenerating bunch of religious maniacs who worship the basically-a-corpse of their god, destroy entire planets at the barest hint of "Chaotic Taint", and transform traitors and deserters into partially sentient cyborg automatons that constantly endure excruciating pain until they are finally granted the sweet release of death in service to the Imperium.)
 
TheSkeptic said:
True, they did show their crueler sides from time to time, though as you said, not nearly as much as in 40k (Which isn't really saying a lot, since the "Good" guys are a bunch of xenophobic, racist, extremely overzealous, slowly degenerating bunch of religious maniacs who worship the basically-a-corpse of their god, destroy entire planets at the barest hint of "Chaotic Taint", and transform traitors and deserters into partially sentient cyborg automatons that constantly endure excruciating pain until they are finally granted the sweet release of death in service to the Imperium.)
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Hahaha... agreed, nobody is good in the 40k universe. Just different shades of evil!
 
LeeroyVinland said:
I want more Seraphon but .. oh well I fear they overdo it with the starmaster thingy. I just want my aztec lizardmen but with better sculpts and more options :(
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Imagine if woogity who works for CA now showed his tyrants to GW, sold them to them, and woogity kroxigors became cannon?
 
Lord-Marcus said:
Imagine if woogity who works for CA now showed his tyrants to GW, sold them to them, and woogity kroxigors became cannon?
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I think they would be popular. Not sure if GW will take the time and resources away from their other projects though.
 
TheSkeptic said:
Bleh, no. I'm just saying, if they took it down a route like that, interesting a path as that would be from a story perspective, we'd probably still be seeing new Stormcast splinter faction models. Even if they've been getting better about it lately, GW gotta GW. Still, would find the idea interesting. As much as I love fantasy, there wasn't a great deal of moral quandary within it. The Empire was good, period. Chaos was evil, period. Would be interesting if the main "Good" faction of AoS started to stray from the basis of their moral compass for the purpose of stopping Chaos at all costs, and having a moral dilemma when one of them realized this.
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I'd like for chaos to not be pure evil for once. Or at least not as completly and utterly hellbend on destruction. Some cooperation with morally gray forces would be cool..

LeeroyVinland said:
I want more Seraphon but .. oh well I fear they overdo it with the starmaster thingy. I just want my aztec lizardmen but with better sculpts and more options :(
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I just want us to be updated so our outdated rules fit in again.. there's quite a lot of our rules slowly being broken it's getting depressing.
 
Canas said:
I'd like for chaos to not be pure evil for once. Or at least not as completly and utterly hellbend on destruction. Some cooperation with morally gray forces would be cool..
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Well Nurgle is not pure evil. He actually cares for his "children". I'm not sure if that is what you had in mind though.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
Well Nurgle is not pure evil. He actually cares for his "children". I'm not sure if that is what you had in mind though.
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That'd be fine if he didn't try to horribly infect everyone and everything with his deseases. Let's take sylvania as an example. Most of the vampires are generally evil and don't have any qualms torturing people. However, they don't necesairly try to turn every single thing they see into undead. They want to rule, and in order to rule you need subjects. Hence they're capable of diplomacy and being (somewhat) civil. It'd be entirely possible for a vampire to show up in front of an empire general to suggest they team up to stop that massive waagh that's coming down from the mountains before it kills both of em. In contrast the a nurgle lord would just be throwing infections at both other factions regardless of how screwed he himself is...
 
Well, every Chaos Gods general doctrine is something along the lines of "Screw everyone else, I must be superior", which is why even Chaos doesn't often ally with other elements of Chaos. Besides, death is different for servants of Chaos. Some of them are outright immortal, like Chaos Daemons, while others are so religiously zealous that "Death" means nothing to them, since they'll just be reunited with their god in the warp. Other then that, Skaven are the only Chaos race left, and they're to suspicious of everyone and everything, others of their race included, to ally with anyone.
 
Canas said:
That'd be fine if he didn't try to horribly infect everyone and everything with his deseases. Let's take sylvania as an example. Most of the vampires are generally evil and don't have any qualms torturing people. However, they don't necesairly try to turn every single thing they see into undead. They want to rule, and in order to rule you need subjects. Hence they're capable of diplomacy and being (somewhat) civil. It'd be entirely possible for a vampire to show up in front of an empire general to suggest they team up to stop that massive waagh that's coming down from the mountains before it kills both of em. In contrast the a nurgle lord would just be throwing infections at both other factions regardless of how screwed he himself is...
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Nurgle does spread his gifts to all those around him, but remember that his own children are essentially immune to them.
 
TheSkeptic said:
Well, every Chaos Gods general doctrine is something along the lines of "Screw everyone else, I must be superior", which is why even Chaos doesn't often ally with other elements of Chaos. Besides, death is different for servants of Chaos. Some of them are outright immortal, like Chaos Daemons, while others are so religiously zealous that "Death" means nothing to them, since they'll just be reunited with their god in the warp. Other then that, Skaven are the only Chaos race left, and they're to suspicious of everyone and everything, others of their race included, to ally with anyone.
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it's boring.. wish they'd done t hat differently. Or at least made chaos less of a focus since it's basicly just a force of nature at this rate.
 
Lord-Marcus said:
Distraction stormcast!

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