They have a 6+ ignore because they are paper thin against regular attacks.
I wouldn't count on Seraphon ever getting a direct update.
I know they're supposed to be paper-thin otherwise, them having it is fine. I'm just slightly miffed that they've been putting in more and more counter-measures against mortal wounds spam on new factions (and also more mortal wounds as the spam is kept in check by those countermeasures). Whereas we're still stuck without any real defenses against it and activly suffering from the countermeasures as newer armies end up overal better (e.g. saurus guards wouldn't have had 1 wound if they were released now, nor would we have issues like the rule of one outright breaking several of our special abilities and massivly diminishing our supposedly amazing wizards). It's just a tad frustrating to constantly be falling behind with every update and only getting bandaids here and there that frequently screw us over more than they help us...
To be honest, the SCE update would be sufficient for us. It introduced a handfull of new units, and some general faction abilities like prayers. That's all we really need. Fix the weird flaws several of our units have, like the 3 abilities we have that are outright broken by the rule of one, give us an actual decent summoning mechanic, and give us a specific spell lore. These three issues should all be fairly well known and thinking up a solution shouldn't be too difficult. Then do a rough rebalancing of our units in general to bring em more in line with similar units and to give us the necesary tools to deal with some of the newer monstrosities that are just flat out better cuz of powercreep. That should solve 90% of the problems we have... Hell there's plenty of ideas floating around on this forum (and I'm sure in other places) that'd bring certain units more in line with those of other factions that are fairly minor changes.
Vanguard Wing is an easy matchup for Seraphon.
). In contrast it feels like the other armies have this issue less. An SCE army doesn't rely on any one unit in the same way as a kroaknado relies on kroak. You'd need to actually defeat the army, not just the general, or that 1 powerhouse monster.I think we need to make one thing clear. We don't think the Seraphon are "weak" exactly. We have potential and when used well we can get very far, quite possibly competing with everything provided we get to tailor our lists for it. However, we are very "flawed". Various of our units have glaring weaknesses, abilities that are far too unreliable or difficult to pull off, funky stats, or abilities that are outright unuseable because they've been gutted (or even completly negated) by new rules like the rule of one and lastly our army is extremly reliable on synergies which aggrevates the issues as it puts us in a place where when our synergies work they work reaaaallly well, and when they don't we get completly annihilated.
Thunderquake is a take-all-comers list. It's not specialized in any one particular way.
Any battalion that has some form of limitations on its units is specialised. In the case of a thunderquake starhost its a low model count behemoth and monster list that needs to stick together. As such it's suspectible to certain attacks (e.g. a liberator's lay low the tyrant), it's suspectile to being outmanouvered as it lacks the models to form much of a formation & the distance requirement force it to stick together further enforces this. However as the individual models are powerfull enough without the bonus from the battalion they aren't completly tied together, spreading them out just means the battalion is significantly worse in these sitatuations.
They’re just Savage Orcs, Savage Orc Boar Boyz and Savage Orc characters, one of the armies with the smallest amount of choice in AoS!