Contest Golden Serpent 2016

[little-myth]

Many thanks

 

[BeardyGecko]

I can see my WIP photo already...

 

[The Red Devil]

The real question is, which one do I write in my paper?

Good catch, I have updated the instructions. Thanks!

@The Red Devil did not see this is there a limit of one model per category or can we post all we have

It is one entry per category, though please note that "Painting - Open" category is only for non Lizardmen / Seraphon / Saurian Ancients and Salamanders models.

"Conversion - Open" is for all models.

I may be blind but what was the deadline on this competition? I have yet to buy paints for the hobby is there any recommendations people can make - GW paints tend to be expensive for small pots or is this just industry standard?

The deadline is end of the day July 31st 2016. I hope that making it two months will give everyone plenty of time to get their entry completed.

Can myself, @Xlanax_lot and @neveroddoreven enter?

Yes, please do

The voting will be for anonymous entries, this is to make certain people dont vote on an entry just due to member X created it. So it should not be an issue for any of you entering.

Hm. Week ago I assembled and primed my new model. Could I start in this contest with this miniature? Actually, it's untouched by any paint but a black primer...

Yes, you can enter the "Painting" categories with it (which, depends what type of model it is). Just take the WIP picture before you start adding any more paint to it.

For the "Conversion" category, the WIP picture has to while it is being converted.

I have updated the competition information to clarify this.

Awesome news!!
One fast question, @The Red Devil:

If I had a built model from the past (9 months or so ago) but it has received no paint at all (not even primer), and I may even build a nice base for him (for showcase), would I be allowed to take part with that model?

Yes, you can enter the "Painting" categories with it (which, depends what type of model it is).

It really does. Such an ambitious and well laid out competition.... WITH AN AMAZING ARRAY OF GREAT PRIZES!

I really don't think you can find such an event on any other forum.

That is why we need to make certain to spread the knowledge of the competition to everyone that could have an interest of entering, if anyone visit other forums make certain to let them know about the competition.

The more entries we have, and publicity our sponsors get, the higher the chance of us getting more prizes next year as well. In addition, we might even get some new community members that stay behind after the competition is completed as well!

Ah hell, I forgot about that. This means that if I don't paint up something to give away as a prize soon, then I'll have to give away something from my collection.

Feel free to enter the competition with the model your painting for the prize.

Spoiler

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Updated competition sign written in Lizardmen glyphs - the date I used the roman numeral template for 2000 10+5+1

This is the spirit we are looking for!

P.s. Can you have a big diorama base?

Yes, but currently there is no real benefit. Ill try a last round of lobbying and see if I cant manage to get some additional prizes to add a Diorama category as well.

That's a good point. would that kind of thing come under a conversion/sculpt, or a "master" painting entry? Or even just an apprentice entry?

I am not sure, would depend on what type of diorama and what it showcase I guess. Though as mentioned above right now there is no real benefit of making one, other than doing it is awesome

@The Red Devil

I have a question regarding the random draw, if you enter say 3 different models in 3 categories do you get 3 entries into the random draw or is it one entry per member?

Good question, I dont know, let me think some on it.

Have to keep reading over rules, the three pictures thing is slightly confusing me. So it's a WIP with the written text as one picture then the other two as two different angle shots of the finished model?

That was the idea, but I see how this can perhaps be to few. Changed the rules to say between three to six pictures (minimum three).

 

[SlanntaClause]

I have a question regarding the random draw, if you enter say 3 different models in 3 categories do you get 3 entries into the random draw or is it one entry per member?

I think a fairer random draw should be 1 per person - but in terms of encouraging more entries per category then one for each entry might boost competition.

 

[Phoedinn]

I agree with @SlanntaClause . One draw per entry would certainly encourage people entering into multiple categories! The more entries the better

 

[NIGHTBRINGER]

@The Red Devil : Quick question, for the "Conversion - Open" category, should the entries be unpainted? Will they be judged purely on the conversion/sculpting or does painting play a factor as well?

 

[Crowsfoot]

@The Red Devil : Quick question, for the "Conversion - Open" category, should the entries be unpainted? Will they be judged purely on the conversion/sculpting or does painting play a factor as well?

I would say the conversion/sculpt is the important part but pics of the model before and after conversion should be included.

 

[NIGHTBRINGER]

I would say the conversion/sculpt is the important part but pics of the model before and after conversion should be included.

But should the entry be painted? Conversions are often best viewed when unprimed/unpainted. And if they are to painted, how are the entries to be judged in terms of conversion skill/execution vs. painting skill/execution?

 

[eron12]

Thanks for boosting the picture number, I think up to six does a better job of showing off a model.

I think the conversion contest should be unpainted, otherwise it just turns into another painting contest.

So I've seen a lot of comments about the painting, who else is excited for the conversion category?

 

[SlanntaClause]

My understanding that it was all a painting competition and that the conversion category was just to paint a converted model. Judging by others response I am wrong

 

[Crowsfoot]

But should the entry be painted? Conversions are often best viewed when unprimed/unpainted. And if they are to painted, how are the entries to be judged in terms of conversion skill/execution vs. painting skill/execution?

Going back before this contest was launched, me @neveroddoreven and @Xlanax_lot were going to do a comp but we were asked by @The Red Devil to incorporate our comp, so I think we are judging this category and if so the painting won't be judged just the conversion.

But you can paint it if you want.

 

[SlanntaClause]

Yeah I read it wrong its a conversion category - so at least that avoided a mistake later down the line

 

[Phoedinn]

...So I've seen a lot of comments about the painting, who else is excited for the conversion category?

Me! I'm already getting bits together and planning out a new conversion for the contest It's a great chance to try something more ambitious!

 

[The Red Devil]

I agree with @SlanntaClause . One draw per entry would certainly encourage people entering into multiple categories! The more entries the better

I am wondering if the best solution is allow up to two draw entries per person, where either of the Painting categories will count for one draw entry, and Conversion will count for one draw entry. That way there is an initiative to both convert a model and paint a model.

What do you guys think?

But should the entry be painted? Conversions are often best viewed when unprimed/unpainted. And if they are to painted, how are the entries to be judged in terms of conversion skill/execution vs. painting skill/execution?

No, I believe the best approach here is that all images is with the model unpainted and unprimed.

Then after you have entered the model in the conversion category, you can paint it and enter it into the painting category if you want. That way you can enter two categories with the same model.

 

[SlanntaClause]

I am wondering if the best solution is allow up to two draw entries per person, where either of the Painting categories will count for one draw entry, and Conversion will count for one draw entry. That way there is an initiative to both convert a model and paint a model.

What do you guys think?

I think this is the best solution I'm happy for this to be the rule

 

[Phoedinn]

No, I believe the best approach here is that all images is with the model unpainted and unprimed.

That would be good actually. I guess then it would be easier to see what was sculpted and what was plastic. Then you could see what skills were actually used.

And I think I agree with two draws. It's probably more feasible that people would do one conversion and one painting entry anyway.

 

[Crowsfoot]

I am wondering if the best solution is allow up to two draw entries per person, where either of the Painting categories will count for one draw entry, and Conversion will count for one draw entry. That way there is an initiative to both convert a model and paint a model.

What do you guys think?


No, I believe the best approach here is that all images is with the model unpainted and unprimed.

Then after you have entered the model in the conversion category, you can paint it and enter it into the painting category if you want. That way you can enter two categories with the same model.

Yeah good idea

 

[Bracnos]

1, we have two months wow I thought it was just one month yaaa
2, aw why did I have to prime my deamon I could have used him for the conversion, now I have to think of a new guy... aw I even primed my carnosuar and the EOG guy in working on aahhh

 

[Crowsfoot]

1, we have two months wow I thought it was just one month yaaa
2, aw why did I have to prime my deamon I could have used him for the conversion, now I have to think of a new guy... aw I even primed my carnosuar and the EOG guy in working on aahhh

But you have WIP pictures?

 

[Jorgik]

More questions arise! Sorry @The Red Devil

The voting will be for anonymous entries, this is to make certain people dont vote on an entry just due to member X created it. So it should not be an issue for any of you entering.

So does this mean that we are not allowed to post WIP pictures in our personal blogs until the end of the voting of the competition? Or is it just that the models will have no user name attached to them?

Also...

In addition, we might even get some new community members that stay behind after the competition is completed as well!

That´s how it happened to me with the sculpting competition to which I actually didn´t take part at the end

I am wondering if the best solution is allow up to two draw entries per person, where either of the Painting categories will count for one draw entry, and Conversion will count for one draw entry. That way there is an initiative to both convert a model and paint a model.

What do you guys think?

I think this is the best solution I'm happy for this to be the rule

+1

So looking forward to this!