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8th Ed. Does Vanguard Count Toward Who Gets the +1?

Discussion in 'Rules Help' started by Stonecutter, Aug 27, 2014.

  1. Stonecutter
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    Our local group has always played it that vanguard does impact the +1 to go first but after playing out of town I discovered we seemed to be in the minority. The only rules to support this are by elimination and inference based on the following FAQs:

    Q: Must units with the Vanguard deployment special rule be
    moved before the roll to see who gets the first turn? (p79)
    A: Yes.


    Q: Do units that are deployed as Scouts count toward determining
    who finished deploying their army first? (p79)
    A: No.


    Just wondering what other people's views are before I discuss with our local group.
     
  2. hdctambien
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    Units that have vanguard are deployed during normal deployment, so they do count towards the +1 for who goes first. But the act of moving the vanguarding units does not.

    Deployment goes like this:

    1. Take turns deploying non-scout units
    -- first player to deploy Characters gets +1 to the "go first roll"

    2. Roll off to see who gets to place scouts first
    -- take turns deploying scouts

    3. Roll off to see who gets to vanguard first
    -- take turns vanguarding units

    4. Roll off to see who takes first turn (the +1 was derived from step 1 above)

    5. Play game!
     
  3. Stonecutter
    Terradon

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    @HDCT: Thanks, that makes it really simple to understand. Hard to believe we were doing it different looking at it laid out in that nice, orderly fashion. I feel like Homer now, Doh!!!
     

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